brummie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sherwood is a bit of a bell end. He did a "checking pulse" thing to the Holte End after the league match against Ollbeeyun last week which was cringey along the same lines as that salute thing. I thought it was a fucking stupid appointment. Having said that, though, we've just been Ollbeeyun twice in five days, played some more than decent (by our recent standards) football in doing so, and secured at least one Wembley trip, to a semi final. Given that, it seems churlish to moan. He's also managed to get a decent performance out of Charles N'Zogbia and Tom Cleverley, which is something I never thought I'd see. He can open his big gob as much as he likes so long as he carries on making it actually pleasurable to watch us play. Before the second Albion game, I was poking around having a look at a few of our forums, and someone posted something along the lines of "I can't get over the fact that I'm actually looking forward to the match". Which basically said it all about what it had become. See also that pitch invasion. I would have preferred it not to have happened, it is a bit smalltime. But then again, this is a club which has had its two worst home seasons in 140 years last season and the season before. A club that had just put together a run of seven consecutive league defeats. A club which had managed a run of over 11 hours without scoring a single goal. A club whose fans have basically had big steaming buckets of liquefied horse shit syringed directly into their eyeballs at home matches for four years. Given all that, I don't blame anyone for running on, and I can see why people would like Sherwood. It is very, very early days, but it feels like I imagine VE Day felt. Thank fuck that is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Careful, or else Ron will huff and puff and blow your house down. If you had owt about you as a poster you'd have done that for me. Just a criminally bad effort by Mistle. Spurs would've finished 3rd with their form under Sherwoord stretched over a full season. They're currently 6th. Vast improvement indeed. Over 28 games he averaged 1.64 points per game, which would've given them 62.4 points over the course of 38 games. This would be less than the 69 points they actually ended up with. They would have finished 7th and not 6th. Obviously it's just an average, but to state that he'd finish 3rd (>82 points), is rather far fetched. It was actually 1.91 points per game according to this article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31470606. Over a full season that's 73 points. Generally good enough for 4th, and often 3rd. Of course, it's all conjecture to suggest who those points would've come form and subsequently how league positioning would've been affected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Careful, or else Ron will huff and puff and blow your house down. If you had owt about you as a poster you'd have done that for me. Just a criminally bad effort by Mistle. Spurs would've finished 3rd with their form under Sherwoord stretched over a full season. They're currently 6th. Vast improvement indeed. Over 28 games he averaged 1.64 points per game, which would've given them 62.4 points over the course of 38 games. This would be less than the 69 points they actually ended up with. They would have finished 7th and not 6th. Obviously it's just an average, but to state that he'd finish 3rd (>82 points), is rather far fetched. Surely if you're extrapolating something over a period of time to come to a theoretical league points total, you have to only look at league matches rather than throw in league cup or europa league games. In league games he picked up 42 points in 22 games, which is 1.9 points per game, which over 38 games equals 72 points. That's pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 NB I rounded down 1.909 to 1.9 but it should actually be 1.91 I guess, which fits with Ronaldo's figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 You've scored 5 goals in 4 games under him, and played very good watchable stuff in the process. I'd call that a minor miracle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 You've scored 5 goals in 4 games under him, and played very good stuff in the process. I'd call that a minor miracle. Especially if you look at the end of Lambert's reign and count back how long a period it took to score our last five goals under him and realise it was in fucking December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Ha. You deserved far more than you got against us, too. Not saying he's the next great coach or owt but there's far more suggesting he's a good manager than bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I was going to post something here about Sherwood after listening to a podcast, I was wondering where this assumption that he's s*** has come from. I mean, he may well be, and he's obviously a bit of a clown, but he was given a brief chance at Spurs and did pretty well with it, let's see how he does. I don't know where this idea of him being talked up by media has come from, I've heard him getting nothing but slagged. I must just be consuming different media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I feel the same way. Its the god damn internet. Everyone needs to be squaeky clean to be liked. If Cabaye played for any other club he'd be hated for being a cunt. But here he's loved even though he acted the way he did. Self riotous lbullshit. People need that chip on their shoulder to feel the way they feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Got no issues with Sherwood. The way he called out Pardew tactics after beating us in 2nd gear while at Spurs said it all for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Peter Reid always comes across as a likeable guy to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Aye I've never really minded Peter Reid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I don't assume Sherwood's shit, I just don't have any reason to believe he's any good. I do think a lot of pundits talk about him as if he's already a proven manager. It's very strange to me that anyone without proven experience and a record of success is ever appointed to a PL club though, it makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 sure I read he's got the highest win percentage than any other Tottenham manager albeit over a short period of time. He's also got villa winning and into a cup semi. Not sure what else he could have done in that period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sherwood is still just unproved for me. His record does warrant him a crack at the whip though. However, his tactics and his Ray Winstone persona are fairly unappealing to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Wayne Rooney is massively underrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sherwood cant get much credit for Villa's turnaround yet. The players have been released from the shackles Lambert had on them. Now that he has been there a couple of weeks in training etc, if the results are maintained he can start to take a bit of credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 There are a lot of people who try to portray Sherwood as some bumbling idiot when his record certainly isn't bad. Obviously he's still relatively inexperienced, but the general opinion seems to be that he's rubbish. Without wanting to sound a bit UKIP, this is entirely because he's an unfashionable Englishman imo. I'd say he's been mostly decent so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 "His record" isn't substantial. Did a good job at Spurs. Doing better than Lambert now. People dislike him because he's arrogant for little reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 The reason most people don't like / rate Sherwood is down his absolutely abhorrent personality and being a total melt. His football is fairly basic but effective English style football. It would be nice if there were some English managers in the league who weren't loathsome pricks but it seems that isn't going to be the case for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waterbottle Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 The reason most people don't like / rate Sherwood is down his absolutely abhorrent personality and being a total melt. His football is fairly basic but effective English style football. It would be nice if there were some English managers in the league who weren't loathsome pricks but it seems that isn't going to be the case for a while. His football isn't that bad though, and he does get results. He's a prick, but that's no reason to discount the results he did consistently get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 The reason most people don't like / rate Sherwood is down his absolutely abhorrent personality and being a total melt. His football is fairly basic but effective English style football. It would be nice if there were some English managers in the league who weren't loathsome pricks but it seems that isn't going to be the case for a while. His football isn't that bad though, and he does get results. He's a prick, but that's no reason to discount the results he did consistently get Never suggested it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I don't assume Sherwood's shit, I just don't have any reason to believe he's any good. I do think a lot of pundits talk about him as if he's already a proven manager. It's very strange to me that anyone without proven experience and a record of success is ever appointed to a PL club though, it makes no sense. Not to be inflammatory, but I can guarantee you'd be saying this if the consensus was the other way. 'I don't assume Sherwood's great, I just don't have any reason to believe he's really that bad. I do think a lot of people talk about him as if he's already a proven to be a bad manager. It's very strange to me that anyone without proven experience and a record of success is ever appointed to a PL club though, it makes no sense.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Aye I've never really minded Peter Reid. Yeah, and he was a great panto villain when he was at the Mackems. Seemed like a proper part of the club, easy to give stick and he clearly enjoyed it too. Poyet just seems like some passing mercenary I've got little interest in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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