Raconteur Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The pass was short insomuch as it did require Willems to come and meet it. But it wasn't a 50-50. It was a 99-1. A schoolboy would've taken two steps forward and met the ball. It was Willems' fault. It only required Willems to get it because it wasn’t the training pitch, it was an actual game with a quick opponent creating that 1% chance solely because Willems was off with the fairies. Willems’ shiteness made a perfectly suitable pass look risky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Maybe I'm biased as I used to play as winger/full back when I was younger, but there's nothing more frustrating as a winger than stretching play as you should and hugging the touchline and then a pass being played way too short. Yes, in an ideal world you anticipate the issue and react, but you've essentially set yourself to receive the ball with a view to opening your body up and going down the touchline. It seems simple, but if you've positioned yourself that way you aren't going to react immediately to set off in the opposite direction to approach a pass that is going to be intercepted. Especially at Premier League level where you have a reasonable expectation that the player making the pass is capable of getting it to you without you having to move towards the ball to win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 That moment, I’d put 80% blame on Willems for the reaction, 20% for the poor pass from Dummett. The sad thing is though, Dummett’s distribution has been like this for 5 years with no improvements, but because he’s ‘solid’ seems to get a pass. This is Willems first action as a Newcastle player and already he’s got supporters not convinced by him and he’s up against it from day one. We’ll have another 3-4 years of Dummett getting away with shite like this though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Nut v Dummett is Wullie v Duff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Dummett's about 8/10 without the ball and about 2/10 with the ball. In this age where everyone's a good footballer regardless of position it's not really good enough to get away with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 In fairness to PD, I think he's one of those players that managers like for his general reliability. Though he won't pull up any trees, he'll not massively let you down very often. He's a bit of an Aaron Hughes for me. I don't mind him in a back three and think he's the kind of guy that SBR would've played every week tbh. Same with Rafa who seemed quite happy to give him a regular role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Its not a great pass by Dummett in that even if it reached its target Willems would have had to either pass it back to him or the keeper, but Willems' effort is comical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I still haven't watched it again yet, soz. I know you are all eagerly awaiting my updated opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 In fairness to PD, I think he's one of those players that managers like for his general reliability. Though he won't pull up any trees, he'll not massively let you down very often. He's a bit of an Aaron Hughes for me. I don't mind him in a back three and think he's the kind of guy that SBR would've played every week tbh. Same with Rafa who seemed quite happy to give him a regular role. SBR would have had a far more attacking midfield and forward line so he could afford to have a purely defensive full back. Rafa would have been looking to upgrade him I am pretty sure. Despite surviving a couple of seasons in the Premier, our football wasn't great down the flanks, to progress we would have needed full backs who could bring the ball out. Like with Schar and Lejeune, I reckon bringing in better full backs was on his list of improvements this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 He's "solid" but he's got two very clear weaknesses. He can't play football with the ball, and he cant change direction quickly. Ritchie has the same second weakness. Not a huge fan of them together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 In fairness to PD, I think he's one of those players that managers like for his general reliability. Though he won't pull up any trees, he'll not massively let you down very often. He's a bit of an Aaron Hughes for me. I don't mind him in a back three and think he's the kind of guy that SBR would've played every week tbh. Same with Rafa who seemed quite happy to give him a regular role. SBR would have had a far more attacking midfield and forward line so he could afford to have a purely defensive full back. Rafa would have been looking to upgrade him I am pretty sure. Despite surviving a couple of seasons in the Premier, our football wasn't great down the flanks, to progress we would have needed full backs who could bring the ball out. Like with Schar and Lejeune, I reckon bringing in better full backs was on his list of improvements this season. SBR had Bernard who was a far better option than Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 In fairness to PD, I think he's one of those players that managers like for his general reliability. Though he won't pull up any trees, he'll not massively let you down very often. He's a bit of an Aaron Hughes for me. I don't mind him in a back three and think he's the kind of guy that SBR would've played every week tbh. Same with Rafa who seemed quite happy to give him a regular role. SBR would have had a far more attacking midfield and forward line so he could afford to have a purely defensive full back. Rafa would have been looking to upgrade him I am pretty sure. Despite surviving a couple of seasons in the Premier, our football wasn't great down the flanks, to progress we would have needed full backs who could bring the ball out. Like with Schar and Lejeune, I reckon bringing in better full backs was on his list of improvements this season. SBR had Bernard who was a far better option than Dummett. He also played Andy O’Brien who really wasn’t as good as PD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 In fairness to PD, I think he's one of those players that managers like for his general reliability. Though he won't pull up any trees, he'll not massively let you down very often. He's a bit of an Aaron Hughes for me. I don't mind him in a back three and think he's the kind of guy that SBR would've played every week tbh. Same with Rafa who seemed quite happy to give him a regular role. SBR would have had a far more attacking midfield and forward line so he could afford to have a purely defensive full back. Rafa would have been looking to upgrade him I am pretty sure. Despite surviving a couple of seasons in the Premier, our football wasn't great down the flanks, to progress we would have needed full backs who could bring the ball out. Like with Schar and Lejeune, I reckon bringing in better full backs was on his list of improvements this season. SBR had Bernard who was a far better option than Dummett. He also played Andy O’Brien who really wasn’t as good as PD. Maybe (not much in it tbf though as both ok at best), but his main position is left back and not centre half and that's why I matched him against Bernard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Think Aaron Hughes was comfortably better than Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Think Aaron Hughes was comfortably better than Dummett. I feel, Hughesy, that your opinion might be a little biased Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Dummett's about 8/10 without the ball and about 2/10 with the ball. In this age where everyone's a good footballer regardless of position it's not really good enough to get away with. So he's a 10/10 in total? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 An average 5/10 if you know maths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Think Aaron Hughes was comfortably better than Dummett. I feel, Hughesy, that your opinion might be a little biased Doesn’t make him wrong though. I like Dummett more than most, but Aaron Hughes was a superior centre half and fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just watched it again, the pass was fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Think Aaron Hughes was comfortably better than Dummett. I feel, Hughesy, that your opinion might be a little biased can't believe someone has seen through my cunning disguise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Think Aaron Hughes was comfortably better than Dummett. I feel, Hughesy, that your opinion might be a little biased can't believe someone has seen through my cunning disguise. Plot twist: He's actually Andy Griffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Think Aaron Hughes was comfortably better than Dummett. I feel, Hughesy, that your opinion might be a little biased can't believe someone has seen through my cunning disguise. Plot twist: He's actually Andy Griffin. He’s more like Peter Griffin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Good defender, shit footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Peter Griffin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Nick Griffin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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