Dave Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Is being able to pass the ball to a team mate who's further than 15-20 yards away not part of being good defensively? How the f***ing hell is he any good defensively when every ball he tries down the line is blocked, intercepted, breaks down an attack and we have to defend yet a f***ing gain? Gets away with murder this bloke. Agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Still convinced he's a centre-half, like. No way should he be relied upon to contribute to attacking play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Is being able to pass the ball to a team mate who's further than 15-20 yards away not part of being good defensively? How the f***ing hell is he any good defensively when every ball he tries down the line is blocked, intercepted, breaks down an attack and we have to defend yet a f***ing gain? Gets away with murder this bloke. Agree. Yep. This exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Is being able to pass the ball to a team mate who's further than 15-20 yards away not part of being good defensively? How the f***ing hell is he any good defensively when every ball he tries down the line is blocked, intercepted, breaks down an attack and we have to defend yet a f***ing gain? Gets away with murder this bloke. Agree. Yep. This exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just another example of a player being out doing wonders for their reputation in the mind's eye of fans. Nah Manquillo cannot defend very well. Paully D in the side with Lascelles, we'll start picking up clean sheets. Despite that Manquillo wasn't usually at fault when we conceded, and he does carry the ball better than Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game He can't run with the ball either to carry the ball out of defence. If he sees nothing on down the line, his next instinct is to pass inside to the nearest CM or CB, or back to the GK. He's hopeless man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game He can't run with the ball either to carry the ball out of defence. If he sees nothing on down the line, his next instinct is to pass inside to the nearest CM or CB, or back to the GK. He's hopeless man. That's not anything to do with his defensive contribution. Did a nice pass in the build up to our last corner btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game He can't run with the ball either to carry the ball out of defence. If he sees nothing on down the line, his next instinct is to pass inside to the nearest CM or CB, or back to the GK. He's hopeless man. That's not anything to do with his defensive contribution. Did a nice pass in the build up to our last corner btw You can't play good football with one nice pass in 45 mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game He can't run with the ball either to carry the ball out of defence. If he sees nothing on down the line, his next instinct is to pass inside to the nearest CM or CB, or back to the GK. He's hopeless man. That's not anything to do with his defensive contribution. Did a nice pass in the build up to our last corner btw You can't play good football with one nice pass in 45 mins. Aye well he clearly isn't a good footballer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game He can't run with the ball either to carry the ball out of defence. If he sees nothing on down the line, his next instinct is to pass inside to the nearest CM or CB, or back to the GK. He's hopeless man. That's not anything to do with his defensive contribution. Did a nice pass in the build up to our last corner btw Of course it is! A League Two defender can block shots, head the ball, hassle a winger, etc. Being able to bring the ball out of defence and turn a defence into an attack is a massive part of his defensive duties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game He can't run with the ball either to carry the ball out of defence. If he sees nothing on down the line, his next instinct is to pass inside to the nearest CM or CB, or back to the GK. He's hopeless man. That's not anything to do with his defensive contribution. Did a nice pass in the build up to our last corner btw Of course it is! A League Two defender can block shots, head the ball, hassle a winger, etc. Being able to bring the ball out of defence and turn a defence into an attack is a massive part of his defensive duties. How come they haven't created anything so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just another example of a player being out doing wonders for their reputation in the mind's eye of fans. Nah Manquillo cannot defend very well. Paully D in the side with Lascelles, we'll start picking up clean sheets. They're separate points, Dummett is still obviously shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just another example of a player being out doing wonders for their reputation in the mind's eye of fans. Nah Manquillo cannot defend very well. Paully D in the side with Lascelles, we'll start picking up clean sheets. Despite that Manquillo wasn't usually at fault when we conceded, and he does carry the ball better than Dummett. Manquillo rarely stops crosses coming into the box. Dummett does. That helps out the CB's and especially Yedlin at RB who can be targeted in the air. I'm certain with Lascelles and Dummett - we'll concede less goals than what we have done previously. He stays fit and plays 17 or more games we improve defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 None of our players actually look for the ball tbf. If he loses the ball its generally from a hoof or a ball up the line where there isn't much danger so I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive part of the game He can't run with the ball either to carry the ball out of defence. If he sees nothing on down the line, his next instinct is to pass inside to the nearest CM or CB, or back to the GK. He's hopeless man. That's not anything to do with his defensive contribution. Did a nice pass in the build up to our last corner btw Of course it is! A League Two defender can block shots, head the ball, hassle a winger, etc. Being able to bring the ball out of defence and turn a defence into an attack is a massive part of his defensive duties. How come they haven't created anything so? Same way we haven't. They're toothless too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I hate this cunt, terrified to have the ball at his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He's very negative on the ball but thought he was fine today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He's very negative on the ball but thought he was fine today. Positivity on the ball was the thing lacking the most though. Time and time again the ball went near him and we stopped dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He's very negative on the ball but thought he was fine today. Positivity on the ball was the thing lacking the most though. Time and time again the ball went near him and we stopped dead. Aye I know we need better but I'd still rather have Dummett than Manquillo even if the latter is a bit more positive bursting forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Was fine defensively, probably our most consistent player across the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I think we like to see the best in him as he's our only LB, though while being a fairly decent defender, he is without a doubt utterly shit. Fuck me i hope we sign a LB this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I think we like to see the best in him as he's our only LB, though while being a fairly decent defender, he is without a doubt utterly shit. Fuck em i hope we sign a LB this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He was good again, and kept Knockaert quiet, but watching him on the ball is painful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Defended fine, but as everyone has said, the problem was going forward, something that he's completely incapable of doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 His shitness on the ball wouldn't be as noticeable if any of our players ever gave an option other than the two centre halves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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