Optimistic Nut Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 If that forces us into getting a competent left-back, hallelujah It won't. Rafa has been playing CBs in that position, some would argue that Dummett himself is a CB, so don't expect our football in possession to improve any. Probably ironic that our CBs have looked better than Dummett at left-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 If that forces us into getting a competent left-back, hallelujah It won't. Rafa has been playing CBs in that position, some would argue that Dummett himself is a CB, so don't expect our football in possession to improve any. Probably ironic that our CBs have looked better than Dummett at left-back. Can't expect Roberto Carlos etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just go Pulis ball and play all the centre backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 If that forces us into getting a competent left-back, hallelujah It won't. Rafa has been playing CBs in that position, some would argue that Dummett himself is a CB, so don't expect our football in possession to improve any. Probably ironic that our CBs have looked better than Dummett at left-back. For all the 'trust in Rafa' philosophy which I readily agree with, I can't get past the feeling that our football is poor partly because we have defenders who aren't comfortable on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Pleased it's not Lejeune out for 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 We could go other than a flat back 4, we have the centre halves to go 3 imo. I'm starting to think this could be a way forward. Yedlin and Kenedy if he signs seem like good options for wing backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Where do the 4 wingers we have fit into that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Rafa's never struck me as a manager that places massive emphasis on ball-playing defenders. Arbeloa, Carragher... did sign Agger though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 A little bit longer than 3 days = 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Our first choice defence is very comfortable on the ball apart from Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Our first choice defence is very comfortable on the ball apart from Dummett. Aye. I don't think he's much good but sadly he's probably the best option we have at LB at the moment, losing him for three months is a blow. He's crap at anything other than defending but he's solid enough that Atsu or Aarons ahead of him will have the freedom to get forward at will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Our first choice defence is very comfortable on the ball apart from Dummett. Aye. I don't think he's much good but sadly he's probably the best option we have at LB at the moment, losing him for three months is a blow. He's crap at anything other than defending but he's solid enough that Atsu or Aarons ahead of him will have the freedom to get forward at will. I think for a club in our position, Dummett gets unfairly railed for his on-the-ball (lack of) ability. There's a lot to be said for a solid defensive full back when you're just trying to stay alive in a division. Might be a stretch, but Danny Simpson seemed clueless both going forward and defending. Personally I'm quite worried about our defence without Dummett at left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 The criticism of him is very fair. His defensive ability is mostly overrated. He's good at 1 on 1 but awful with the ball aimed over his head. Watching him try to turn is dreadful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Our first choice defence is very comfortable on the ball apart from Dummett. Aye. I don't think he's much good but sadly he's probably the best option we have at LB at the moment, losing him for three months is a blow. He's crap at anything other than defending but he's solid enough that Atsu or Aarons ahead of him will have the freedom to get forward at will. I think for a club in our position, Dummett gets unfairly railed for his on-the-ball (lack of) ability. There's a lot to be said for a solid defensive full back when you're just trying to stay alive in a division. Might be a stretch, but Danny Simpson seemed clueless both going forward and defending. Personally I'm quite worried about our defence without Dummett at left back. Chancel looked fairly ok vs Huddersfield. Most of our shit play came from loss of possession in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Is this worth a bump? Just saw on SSN Dummett back in the squad. I'm still not a fan but get him in over Manquillo ASAP, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I'd agree, at the very least to give Manquillo a kick up his arse for competition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The criticism of him is very fair. His defensive ability is mostly overrated. He's good at 1 on 1 but awful with the ball aimed over his head. Watching him try to turn is dreadful. If he was defensively so bad Rafa wouldn’t play him. He’s had a fair bit of competition and Rafa has had him as #1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The criticism of him is very fair. His defensive ability is mostly overrated. He's good at 1 on 1 but awful with the ball aimed over his head. Watching him try to turn is dreadful. If he was defensively so bad Rafa wouldn’t play him. He’s had a fair bit of competition and Rafa has had him as #1 Who from? Haidara's been injured 2/3s of the time and is average, Lazaar was never a left-back and Manquillo's average. The fact he spent £4m while in the Championship on a first-choice Serie A player with the intention of playing him there is telling though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 You could say that Rafa wouldn't play Joselu if he didn't think he was a good goalscorer. It doesn't really work like that at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The criticism of him is very fair. His defensive ability is mostly overrated. He's good at 1 on 1 but awful with the ball aimed over his head. Watching him try to turn is dreadful. If he was defensively so bad Rafa wouldn’t play him. He’s had a fair bit of competition and Rafa has had him as #1 Fair bit of competition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Rafa’s bought in Gamez, Manquillo and Lazaar. Dummett is better than them fwiw Aye he seems to prefer Joselu over Mitro which is baffling. Likewise Elliot’s seen off a couple competitors which says more about them than it does Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Rafa’s bought in Gamez, Manquillo and Lazaar. Dummett is better than them fwiw Aye he seems to prefer Joselu over Mitro which is baffling. Likewise Elliot’s seen off a couple competitors which says more about them than it does Rob. It doesn't really mean anything though. If you are buying players for under £5m you are going to end up with lots of pretty poor players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Rafa’s bought in Gamez, Manquillo and Lazaar. Dummett is better than them fwiw Aye he seems to prefer Joselu over Mitro which is baffling. Likewise Elliot’s seen off a couple competitors which says more about them than it does Rob. Great post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Surprised there wasn't a post in here for last night, thought he looked very composed for the most part at the back, was impressed with his performance. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to see a potential partnership between Dummett and Lascelles, though I'd still prefer him at LB over Manquillo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Thought he did well and glad that he's back. We badly need a lefty at LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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