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r0cafella

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If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all.

 

We should look to shed people like Obertan, Marv and Jonas as said. Would like to see us bring a couple british players in just for balance really. I don't like the 10 non-british players in a team stuff.

 

Yeah, as Disco said though, who's going to take them off our hands on their wages? They'll end up being loaned out until their contracts are up similar to Xisco, or we'll end up paying some of their wages if they leave anyway.

 

I guess Obertan still has "Man Utd/Fergie so much be alreet" to the untrained eye and Marveux is very much a YouTube player. Jonas...naaaaah.

 

I don't think Marv is tbh.

 

Our whole side struggled last year and many players who were bad mouthed have shown good form this season Marv just hasn't had the chance to do so.

 

 

 

I mean he provides the odd highlight which looks good but for the most part lets the game pass him by.

 

I see your point mate but personally until I see more of him in a side which is functioning I'll reserve judgement.

 

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If Marveaux is as good as some people think he is, I expect an avalanche of offers for him in January. Other clubs scouts will know of his qualities and will be rushing to put an offer in for him.

 

Not sure the clubs who will want him (French clubs imo) will be able to match the wages he'll be on, be interesting to see if he himself will compromise on that front. If he doesn't he'll be stuck here not playing.

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I often hear that view but think it's a bit harsh considering the lack of minutes he's had on the pitch.  Most players had shockers last year, he must have had more of an effect on games than most per minute he was actually playing.  God knows why he hasn't featured this season mind, it's clearly over for him here.

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Eh, he has some quality but he's fragile and is completely anonymous sometimes. I like him, but there are some seriously inflated opinions of him on here.

 

Has very good chance creation and assist stats given his limited playing time. Not a grafter though so won't find himself in a Pardew team anytime soon.

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I know some of the squad players are nowhere near the first team at the moment. But I worry when we eventually get injuries if we would regret letting too many go.

Plus if we continue the way we're going and qualify for the Europa League next year we're just going to need to buy more squad players anyway.

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Marveaux is more versatile than either of them. To be fair he's been unlucky that Gouffran, Ben Arfa, and Remy have been performing well. I'd rather keep him if he's happy to wait for his chance and fight for his place. The other two I'd be happy if they never play for us again. Jonas has been a great servant to the club but he has no end product and is losing pace. Obertang needs to take legal action against whoever told him those slanderous lies about him being a footballer.

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Marveaux is more versatile than either of them. To be fair he's been unlucky that Gouffran, Ben Arfa, and Remy have been performing well. I'd rather keep him if he's happy to wait for his chance and fight for his place. The other two I'd be happy if they never play for us again. Jonas has been a great servant to the club but he has no end product and is losing pace. Obertang needs to take legal action against whoever told him those slanderous lies about him being a footballer.

 

Any reason why Gouffran has adjusted better than Marveuax? Simple - better attitude.

 

I'm not saying Marveuax is some sort of trouble maker, because clearly there's no evidence of that, it's just that Gouffran has more desire to succeed here. Marveuax lacks desires and it's so obvious in the way he plays. Unfortunately for us and for him, he's not that good to be able to make it with that attitude.

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In what set up is Marveaux going to work well in? If he went to Swansea, he'd have to work hard as they look to press to get the ball back, same if he went to Southampton etc. You need to be more than just a good technical player in this league, it's a daft criticism of Pardew that he wants players to work.

 

I like him but he lets things pass him by too much.

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I don't think Marveaux is that versatile, he needs protecting by two other midfielders and play centrally to allow him to create. He's poor on the wings or with any defensive responsibility. I don't think we can rely on him but I think it's shocking how little he is appreciated for some assists that may have kept us up last season, playing passing footy while the rest of the team was hoofing it everywhere.

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Dont get any of this Marveaux criticism.  Hes a good player, sometimes the manager just doesnt fancy them.

Sure it was mentioned a while ago that he has really found it hard to settle over here, think Pards rates him he just can't seem to get him feeling right.

Sure we will sell him for his benefit as well as ours.

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Dont get any of this Marveaux criticism.  Hes a good player, sometimes the manager just doesnt fancy them.

Sure it was mentioned a while ago that he has really found it hard to settle over here, think Pards rates him he just can't seem to get him feeling right.

Sure we will sell him for his benefit as well as ours.

 

Not having Pardew rates him, there is not a single reason in the entire world for Obertan to play or be on the bench ahead of him. Obertan is the worst player i've ever seen for us in a long time.

 

For Pardew to prefer Obertan above Marveaux says it all about how much Pardew rates Marv.

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Dont get any of this Marveaux criticism.  Hes a good player, sometimes the manager just doesnt fancy them.

Sure it was mentioned a while ago that he has really found it hard to settle over here, think Pards rates him he just can't seem to get him feeling right.

Sure we will sell him for his benefit as well as ours.

 

Not having Pardew rates him, there is not a single reason in the entire world for Obertan to play or be on the bench ahead of him. Obertan is the worst player i've ever seen for us in a long time.

 

For Pardew to prefer Obertan above Marveaux says it all about how much Pardew rates Marv.

 

Horses for courses like. I'd rather Obertan than Marveaux if my team was in the lead and coming under a bit of pressure, due to his pace on the break (I'm aware of his limitations btw, but it does push defences/teams back and provides an out ball). If my team were behind and I needed a bit of magic breaking the opposition down it would be Marveaux every single time. Neither are starters for me, but both should be on the bench when fit.

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Dont get any of this Marveaux criticism.  Hes a good player, sometimes the manager just doesnt fancy them.

Sure it was mentioned a while ago that he has really found it hard to settle over here, think Pards rates him he just can't seem to get him feeling right.

Sure we will sell him for his benefit as well as ours.

 

Not having Pardew rates him, there is not a single reason in the entire world for Obertan to play or be on the bench ahead of him. Obertan is the worst player i've ever seen for us in a long time.

 

For Pardew to prefer Obertan above Marveaux says it all about how much Pardew rates Marv.

 

Horses for courses like. I'd rather Obertan than Marveaux if my team was in the lead and coming under a bit of pressure, due to his pace on the break (I'm aware of his limitations btw, but it does push defences/teams back and provides an out ball). If my team were behind and I needed a bit of magic breaking the opposition down it would be Marveaux every single time. Neither are starters for me, but both should be on the bench when fit.

 

I agree about Marv and particular games when we need that little pass etc, but not on Obertan. I couldn't care less how fast he is, he is truly awful and is a completely pointless squad member. And imo just takes up a space on the bench a youngster could have (or Marv obviously). He's just terrible, utterly terrible.

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Dont get any of this Marveaux criticism.  Hes a good player, sometimes the manager just doesnt fancy them.

Sure it was mentioned a while ago that he has really found it hard to settle over here, think Pards rates him he just can't seem to get him feeling right.

Sure we will sell him for his benefit as well as ours.

 

Not having Pardew rates him, there is not a single reason in the entire world for Obertan to play or be on the bench ahead of him. Obertan is the worst player i've ever seen for us in a long time.

 

For Pardew to prefer Obertan above Marveaux says it all about how much Pardew rates Marv.

 

Horses for courses like. I'd rather Obertan than Marveaux if my team was in the lead and coming under a bit of pressure, due to his pace on the break (I'm aware of his limitations btw, but it does push defences/teams back and provides an out ball). If my team were behind and I needed a bit of magic breaking the opposition down it would be Marveaux every single time. Neither are starters for me, but both should be on the bench when fit.

I keep hearing this about obertan but never seem to see it actually work in practice.  Apart from that one game (Blackburn?)

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Marveaux is a good footballer with a good eye for a defence splitting pass...his creation of goal chances is very good when compared to his appearances. The problem is that he is a bit one-paced and doesn't relish the cut and thrust of PL football so Pardew would naturally be reluctant to play him, especially in games against physical sides.

Obertan has pace, but no football brain....of the two, I would prefer to have Marveaux who could be used as a late sub in games where we are winning to hold the ball and possibly create chances on the break where the opposition are pushing for an equalizer and stretched. You can say that Obertan's pace is also useful in that situation, but it is almost a certainty that he would fail to pick out a colleague at the end of his run..he would be trying to beat another defender.

 

Neither are a good fit in the first team at present because we rely heavily on Remy's pace and Gouffran's work ethic to get results and neither Marveaux or Obertan are as useful.

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Dont get any of this Marveaux criticism.  Hes a good player, sometimes the manager just doesnt fancy them.

Sure it was mentioned a while ago that he has really found it hard to settle over here, think Pards rates him he just can't seem to get him feeling right.

Sure we will sell him for his benefit as well as ours.

 

Not having Pardew rates him, there is not a single reason in the entire world for Obertan to play or be on the bench ahead of him. Obertan is the worst player i've ever seen for us in a long time.

 

For Pardew to prefer Obertan above Marveaux says it all about how much Pardew rates Marv.

 

Horses for courses like. I'd rather Obertan than Marveaux if my team was in the lead and coming under a bit of pressure, due to his pace on the break (I'm aware of his limitations btw, but it does push defences/teams back and provides an out ball). If my team were behind and I needed a bit of magic breaking the opposition down it would be Marveaux every single time. Neither are starters for me, but both should be on the bench when fit.

I keep hearing this about obertan but never seem to see it actually work in practice.  Apart from that one game (Blackburn?)

 

Against Chelsea he did "well", too after coming on. Even helping to assist the 2-0 (accidentally, though)

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For Pardew to prefer Obertan above Marveaux says it all about how much Pardew rates Marv.

 

Repeating masel, but I'm convinced it goes much further than what Marv does on the pitch, which more than merits a place ahead of Obertan. Got to be something to do with his attitude in training.

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