Mole_Toonfan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Demble is so overrated. Yet better than any of our lot other than Cabaye. Also Long is bang average... we already have players who work hard. Besides we enough strikers who don't score goals, we need a starting CF who we can rely upon not more back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Ignoring those reports, does anyone really think we'll sign more than one player. The only reason we bought last winter was because we were in danger of going down. Unless Ashley has a rush of ambition we will only sign a striker and a slim chance of a LW if Marv goes out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Longs a proper little wind up merchant as well. Sign him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Pretty sure that in January we'll be back in for Gomis and that will be all, in terms of incomings anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Getting Shane Long for a much reduced fee (due to his contract expiring in the Summer) would seem to fit the way NUFC go about transfers under this regime. Shola isn't getting a new contract so he will need replacing. It is far from guaranteed that Remy will be here next season. Shola and Remy out with Long and Gomis in for low fees would meet the current NUFC transfer 'model'. If we where to sign Long would we need Gomis? We would need someone capable of getting 20 goals but I don't think Gomis is that man. We need the option of at least one big striker who can hold the ball up. Apart from Shola we haven't got any other strikers who can do that. As I understand it, Gomis has those sort of attributes. Obviously there are no guarantees we will get Gomis. If we don't get Gomis we need a striker similar to him. In theory it shouldn't be too difficult to replace Shola with someone better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Getting Shane Long for a much reduced fee (due to his contract expiring in the Summer) would seem to fit the way NUFC go about transfers under this regime. Shola isn't getting a new contract so he will need replacing. It is far from guaranteed that Remy will be here next season. Shola and Remy out with Long and Gomis in for low fees would meet the current NUFC transfer 'model'. If we where to sign Long would we need Gomis? We would need someone capable og getting 20 goals but I don't think Gomis is that man. I thought Gomis was seen more of a battering ram type of forward. If Shola's not there next season we won't have anybody to win the ball in the air if Pardew decides he wants to go long ball in a game. EDIT: yeah what he just said above basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'd be delighted if we picked up Gomis and one other signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Me too, I'd probably rather the other one was a CB than another forward. Getting a quality one in January won't be easy mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Longs a proper little wind up merchant as well. Sign him up. Won't do much for Colo's confidence, getting raped every day in training by a player whose best days have been in the Championship. Rate Long, btw. He's far much more than a poacher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 He grafts his bollocks of Long, he'd be perfect for us (as a cheaper option) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Could be a Gouff-style underwhelming signing who turns out to be class. Also, was he with Pardew at Reading? Maybe too young. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Could be a Gouff-style underwhelming signing who turns out to be class. Also, was he with Pardew at Reading? Maybe too young. nah came over from my local club Cork City (still pisses me off how Reading basically got him for next to nothing) in 2005 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Ah yes. I lived in Reading when they were in the Prem, saw him quite a bit. Never thought he would make it in the top divisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Could be a Gouff-style underwhelming signing who turns out to be class. Also, was he with Pardew at Reading? Maybe too young. nah came over from my local club Cork City (still pisses me off how Reading basically got him for next to nothing) in 2005 Was he thrown into the Kevin Doyle deal as a makeweight? Crazy deal for reading, considering what they sold both players for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Longs a proper little wind up merchant as well. Sign him up. Won't do much for Colo's confidence, getting raped every day in training by a player whose best days have been in the Championship. Rate Long, btw. He's far much more than a poacher. Not hard when he isn't one to begin with.... a poacher doesn't score 63 goals in 245 games. Not sure why this forum has a such a hard on for Long.... all he is a willing runner other than that he has zero outstanding qualities and besides we already have two players who can do that in Gouffran and Remy who are both better footballers with better goal returns. There is no reason to keep filling up the squad with bang average mid table players and we won't be going anywhere by doing so. We don't lack quantity, we lack quality and Long is nowhere close to being the answer to the quality we need to go forward. I wasn't aware that we had all dropped back into "lets buy bang average footballers because we can't attract any better mode" Buying people like Long would say one thing to me.... Mediocrity and you all seem delighted by the possibility of that future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 He's better at what he does than both Remy and Gouffran, although you're right that both of those have more ability. Like I said before, not sure exactly where he'd fit in but I do like him in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 He's better at what he does than both Remy and Gouffran, although you're right that both of those have more ability. Like I said before, not sure exactly where he'd fit in but I do like him in general. Apart from one season in the Championship where he scored 20+ his best goal return is 8.... don't get why people like him so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I rate Long. A sort of poor man's Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Long would be a good squad options. Still think we would need a central striker who will perform or play Gouffran through the centre and sign another wide forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Nobody has a hard on for Long, Mole. Nee need for your massive player dissections trying to tell everyone what the craic is. We're starting Shola Ameobi and bringing fucking Obertan off the bench, that alone is enough for people to want someone like Shane Long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Could be a Gouff-style underwhelming signing who turns out to be class. Also, was he with Pardew at Reading? Maybe too young. nah came over from my local club Cork City (still pisses me off how Reading basically got him for next to nothing) in 2005 Was he thrown into the Kevin Doyle deal as a makeweight? Crazy deal for reading, considering what they sold both players for. yup utterly daft, they found out Doyle had a low release clause somehow but decided that was still too much and wanted Long thrown in too iirc. Insanity utter insanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Nobody has a hard on for Long, Mole. Nee need for your massive player dissections trying to tell everyone what the craic is. We're starting Shola Ameobi and bringing f***ing Obertan off the bench, that alone is enough for people to want someone like Shane Long. I'm sure he can speak for himself mate But seriously the reason i'm so against it is because we have players of his type already in the squad..... what's the point in adding more? We desperately need a CF who can score goals and hold the ball up... Long does neither with any sort of regularity. On top of that i'd say we need a creative winger who isn't called Hatem Ben Arfa who we can rely upon.... Ince would be nice. A creative midfield cover for Cabaye, who can play alongside him if need be or actually replace him in the line up if he's injured or what ever. Last but not least a physical CB who can organize the back 4. Of course none of this will happen as the Fatman doesn't have the ambition to fund it or dwell into the clubs funds to do so either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 16 goals in 76 games. Impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Gouffran's record is even worse. He's been one of our best players this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Bellamy had 28 in 93 and he was one of the best players we've had in the PL era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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