Skirge Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 You can't want strength in depth and then worry about the wage bill, Jonas should be kept until the summer, Marv will go in January. I think. He has not settled here and is a clever little player who deserves to be playing, so back to France for him You fucking whaaa? yeah ok maybe Obertan and Marv are not in that but Jonas is. You want to protect a narrow lead Jonas is a good shout to throw on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all. We should look to shed people like Obertan, Marv and Jonas as said. Would like to see us bring a couple british players in just for balance really. I don't like the 10 non-british players in a team stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all. We should look to shed people like Obertan, Marv and Jonas as said. Would like to see us bring a couple british players in just for balance really. I don't like the 10 non-british players in a team stuff. Yeah, as Disco said though, who's going to take them off our hands on their wages? They'll end up being loaned out until their contracts are up similar to Xisco, or we'll end up paying some of their wages if they leave anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all. We should look to shed people like Obertan, Marv and Jonas as said. Would like to see us bring a couple british players in just for balance really. I don't like the 10 non-british players in a team stuff. Yeah, as Disco said though, who's going to take them off our hands on their wages? They'll end up being loaned out until their contracts are up similar to Xisco, or we'll end up paying some of their wages if they leave anyway. I guess Obertan still has "Man Utd/Fergie so much be alreet" to the untrained eye and Marveux is very much a YouTube player. Jonas...naaaaah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all. We should look to shed people like Obertan, Marv and Jonas as said. Would like to see us bring a couple british players in just for balance really. I don't like the 10 non-british players in a team stuff. Yeah, as Disco said though, who's going to take them off our hands on their wages? They'll end up being loaned out until their contracts are up similar to Xisco, or we'll end up paying some of their wages if they leave anyway. I guess Obertan still has "Man Utd/Fergie so much be alreet" to the untrained eye and Marveux is very much a YouTube player. Jonas...naaaaah. I don't think Marv is tbh. Our whole side struggled last year and many players who were bad mouthed have shown good form this season Marv just hasn't had the chance to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Marveaux is quality and will prove it somewhere else in the right setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Eh, he has some quality but he's fragile and is completely anonymous sometimes. I like him, but there are some seriously inflated opinions of him on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Marveaux is quality and will prove it somewhere else in the right setup. Aye, injuries and a manager who doesn't fancy him has made his move here not work out, talented player imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Eh, he has some quality but he's fragile and is completely anonymous sometimes. I like him, but there are some seriously inflated opinions of him on here. Played mostly last season when the team was shit, now he could have done better himself tbf. But what if had chances this term, we would have seen a better player than we've seen imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If Marveaux is as good as some people think he is, I expect an avalanche of offers for him in January. Other clubs scouts will know of his qualities and will be rushing to put an offer in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all. We should look to shed people like Obertan, Marv and Jonas as said. Would like to see us bring a couple british players in just for balance really. I don't like the 10 non-british players in a team stuff. Yeah, as Disco said though, who's going to take them off our hands on their wages? They'll end up being loaned out until their contracts are up similar to Xisco, or we'll end up paying some of their wages if they leave anyway. I guess Obertan still has "Man Utd/Fergie so much be alreet" to the untrained eye and Marveux is very much a YouTube player. Jonas...naaaaah. I don't think Marv is tbh. Our whole side struggled last year and many players who were bad mouthed have shown good form this season Marv just hasn't had the chance to do so. I mean he provides the odd highlight which looks good but for the most part lets the game pass him by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If we intend to keep buying foreigners then we'll have to start offloading some of the useless ones otherwise we won't be able to register them all. We should look to shed people like Obertan, Marv and Jonas as said. Would like to see us bring a couple british players in just for balance really. I don't like the 10 non-british players in a team stuff. Yeah, as Disco said though, who's going to take them off our hands on their wages? They'll end up being loaned out until their contracts are up similar to Xisco, or we'll end up paying some of their wages if they leave anyway. I guess Obertan still has "Man Utd/Fergie so much be alreet" to the untrained eye and Marveux is very much a YouTube player. Jonas...naaaaah. I don't think Marv is tbh. Our whole side struggled last year and many players who were bad mouthed have shown good form this season Marv just hasn't had the chance to do so. I mean he provides the odd highlight which looks good but for the most part lets the game pass him by. I see your point mate but personally until I see more of him in a side which is functioning I'll reserve judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If Marveaux is as good as some people think he is, I expect an avalanche of offers for him in January. Other clubs scouts will know of his qualities and will be rushing to put an offer in for him. Not sure the clubs who will want him (French clubs imo) will be able to match the wages he'll be on, be interesting to see if he himself will compromise on that front. If he doesn't he'll be stuck here not playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I often hear that view but think it's a bit harsh considering the lack of minutes he's had on the pitch. Most players had shockers last year, he must have had more of an effect on games than most per minute he was actually playing. God knows why he hasn't featured this season mind, it's clearly over for him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I like Marveaux but I don't see where he'd fit in at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Eh, he has some quality but he's fragile and is completely anonymous sometimes. I like him, but there are some seriously inflated opinions of him on here. Has very good chance creation and assist stats given his limited playing time. Not a grafter though so won't find himself in a Pardew team anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I know some of the squad players are nowhere near the first team at the moment. But I worry when we eventually get injuries if we would regret letting too many go. Plus if we continue the way we're going and qualify for the Europa League next year we're just going to need to buy more squad players anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Marveaux is more versatile than either of them. To be fair he's been unlucky that Gouffran, Ben Arfa, and Remy have been performing well. I'd rather keep him if he's happy to wait for his chance and fight for his place. The other two I'd be happy if they never play for us again. Jonas has been a great servant to the club but he has no end product and is losing pace. Obertang needs to take legal action against whoever told him those slanderous lies about him being a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Have we actually been linked with any players as of yet ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Marveaux is more versatile than either of them. To be fair he's been unlucky that Gouffran, Ben Arfa, and Remy have been performing well. I'd rather keep him if he's happy to wait for his chance and fight for his place. The other two I'd be happy if they never play for us again. Jonas has been a great servant to the club but he has no end product and is losing pace. Obertang needs to take legal action against whoever told him those slanderous lies about him being a footballer. Any reason why Gouffran has adjusted better than Marveuax? Simple - better attitude. I'm not saying Marveuax is some sort of trouble maker, because clearly there's no evidence of that, it's just that Gouffran has more desire to succeed here. Marveuax lacks desires and it's so obvious in the way he plays. Unfortunately for us and for him, he's not that good to be able to make it with that attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Gouffran is a work horse, I'm sure he was out forking the grass at half time during the Stoke game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 In what set up is Marveaux going to work well in? If he went to Swansea, he'd have to work hard as they look to press to get the ball back, same if he went to Southampton etc. You need to be more than just a good technical player in this league, it's a daft criticism of Pardew that he wants players to work. I like him but he lets things pass him by too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Dont get any of this Marveaux criticism. Hes a good player, sometimes the manager just doesnt fancy them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I don't think Marveaux is that versatile, he needs protecting by two other midfielders and play centrally to allow him to create. He's poor on the wings or with any defensive responsibility. I don't think we can rely on him but I think it's shocking how little he is appreciated for some assists that may have kept us up last season, playing passing footy while the rest of the team was hoofing it everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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