Hanshithispantz Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I remember Carroll as a different player when he was at us though, whether he was just young an hungry or if he just cared more when he was here. He used to be all over the front line. I remember when we got battered off Bolton and he was the only player still chasing every ball. Never really seen that since though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 If he stays fit West Ham will get into Europe, he won't be leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 If he stays fit West Ham will get into Europe, he won't be leaving. Not a chance in hell. I realize they are 6th at the moment but they are not staying there just like Leicester are not staying in the top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Carroll is a better player than Mitrovic, but it's all pointless if he's injured every time someone sneezes on him. Carroll and Mitrovic are both supporting acts at the moment. Carroll is a permacrock who isn't available for most of the season and Mitrovic can't finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 If he stays fit West Ham will get into Europe, he won't be leaving. Not a chance in hell. I realize they are 6th at the moment but they are not staying there just like Leicester are not staying in the top 4. I would bet you 100 pound one of them events will occur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Shelvey, Dawson, then Bamford on loan. Sissoko and Perez out. Dawson. Fuck off and do 11,000 words, divvy. I was joking. Also, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Making any signings this window is utterly pointless if we are shifting out any of our quality players. The thought of Sissoko and Perez leaving to fund a spree is outrageous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I think Austin is a must now, we need goals and he is proven, I don't think it's a choice between him and mitrovic I don't see why they can't play in the same team in the correct formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Because they wount play to eachothers strenghts most likely... they are too similar in style. If you want a pairing you need something like Bony Aguero or whatnot, 2 different breeds. Unfortunately we don't have anything like it, closest would be Armstrong who obv. is not around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really pissed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Wonder how Leicester's season would have panned out if their bid had been accepted in the summer. Him ahead of Ulloa & Okazaki? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really pissed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a fucking thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I still can't believe that many think a centre back and striker followed by a winger are the most important signings. Two new and good central midfielders will significantly improve us all over the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really p*ssed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a f***ing thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad How do you work out he too much of a coward to ask for players ? unreal statement, unless you go to the board meetings .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really p*ssed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a f***ing thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad How do you work out he too much of a coward to ask for players ? unreal statement, unless you go to the board meetings .... we have 17 points after 20 games man, everyone who has watched us knows we're in desperate need of players all over the pitch and a manager in his situation traditionally would be putting the onus on the board by publicly stating he needs players to make changes but steve is either too scared of losing his job to do so (a la mr pardew) or he's agreed it all up front (as mr pardew might have done tbf) what's the alternative, that he thinks everything really is fine? not a very good one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I still can't believe that many think a centre back and striker followed by a winger are the most important signings. Two new and good central midfielders will significantly improve us all over the pitch. I agree. Tiote had a good day yesterday. Maybe he was afforded more time on the ball that's why he looked better than usual, but against a high pressing side he tends to panic a bit. Yesterday we controlled midfield and had way more chances and less pressure on our defence. Left Back and Centre Half we can somewhat get away with what we have, although not ideal. We do need another striker though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really p*ssed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a f***ing thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad How do you work out he too much of a coward to ask for players ? unreal statement, unless you go to the board meetings .... we have 17 points after 20 games man, everyone who has watched us knows we're in desperate need of players all over the pitch and a manager in his situation traditionally would be putting the onus on the board by publicly stating he needs players to make changes but steve is either too scared of losing his job to do so (a la mr pardew) or he's agreed it all up front (as mr pardew might have done tbf) what's the alternative, that he thinks everything really is fine? not a very good one Just because he does not come out in the press and say things does not make him a coward. as I say unreal statement. I am sure with his job on the line he will be asking for more players. unreal to think he not. But as everyone knows the manager at Newcastle has little if any say on transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The word coward is branded around way to often tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really p*ssed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a f***ing thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad How do you work out he too much of a coward to ask for players ? unreal statement, unless you go to the board meetings .... we have 17 points after 20 games man, everyone who has watched us knows we're in desperate need of players all over the pitch and a manager in his situation traditionally would be putting the onus on the board by publicly stating he needs players to make changes but steve is either too scared of losing his job to do so (a la mr pardew) or he's agreed it all up front (as mr pardew might have done tbf) what's the alternative, that he thinks everything really is fine? not a very good one Just because he does not come out in the press and say things does not make him a coward. as I say unreal statement. I am sure with his job on the line he will be asking for more players. unreal to think he not. But as everyone knows the manager at Newcastle has little if any say on transfers. of course they're not the only two options known to man in this scenario, but they're the most likely knowing what we know of the people in charge and the way they operate he's on the board ffs, he knows what's going on or we've been lied to about that as well what gives you faith in any level of honesty at the club after all this time with ashley, 4 years of pardew and then carver? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The word coward is branded around way to often tbh. what other word is there? i always stand to be corrected but earlier in the season mcclaren was talking up transfers i'm sure and admitting that we needed players, indeed maybe even said the club would be active in the market he gets asked now and he's like a rabbit in the headlights absolutely shitting himself about saying the wrong thing because he's probably been told there's no one of any worth coming in, the same way he was told he was keeping colo when he didn't want it didn't have the balls to quit over that, won't have the balls to quit when he's let down in january what word would you prefer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really p*ssed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a f***ing thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad How do you work out he too much of a coward to ask for players ? unreal statement, unless you go to the board meetings .... we have 17 points after 20 games man, everyone who has watched us knows we're in desperate need of players all over the pitch and a manager in his situation traditionally would be putting the onus on the board by publicly stating he needs players to make changes but steve is either too scared of losing his job to do so (a la mr pardew) or he's agreed it all up front (as mr pardew might have done tbf) what's the alternative, that he thinks everything really is fine? not a very good one Just because he does not come out in the press and say things does not make him a coward. as I say unreal statement. I am sure with his job on the line he will be asking for more players. unreal to think he not. But as everyone knows the manager at Newcastle has little if any say on transfers. of course they're not the only two options known to man in this scenario, but they're the most likely knowing what we know of the people in charge and the way they operate he's on the board ffs, he knows what's going on or we've been lied to about that as well what gives you faith in any level of honesty at the club after all this time with ashley, 4 years of pardew and then carver? I have no faith, but my point is you called him a coward not asking for players. how do work this out . unless you are in meeting with them you have no idea what is said, like everyone on here. I am sure most managers would like to strengthen their squads each window, so I would imagine he would ask for new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really p*ssed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a f***ing thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad How do you work out he too much of a coward to ask for players ? unreal statement, unless you go to the board meetings .... we have 17 points after 20 games man, everyone who has watched us knows we're in desperate need of players all over the pitch and a manager in his situation traditionally would be putting the onus on the board by publicly stating he needs players to make changes but steve is either too scared of losing his job to do so (a la mr pardew) or he's agreed it all up front (as mr pardew might have done tbf) what's the alternative, that he thinks everything really is fine? not a very good one Just because he does not come out in the press and say things does not make him a coward. as I say unreal statement. I am sure with his job on the line he will be asking for more players. unreal to think he not. But as everyone knows the manager at Newcastle has little if any say on transfers. of course they're not the only two options known to man in this scenario, but they're the most likely knowing what we know of the people in charge and the way they operate he's on the board ffs, he knows what's going on or we've been lied to about that as well what gives you faith in any level of honesty at the club after all this time with ashley, 4 years of pardew and then carver? I have no faith, but my point is you called him a coward not asking for players. how do work this out . unless you are in meeting with them you have no idea what is said, like everyone on here. I am sure most managers would like to strengthen their squads each window, so I would imagine he would ask for new players. no i offered two options; first he's a coward because he won't come out and publicly say we need a fresh injection of players ASAP or we're going to be relegated, second he's complicit with charnley et al as part of the board in not doing anything or doing the bare minimum he's supposed to be a football manager man, it shouldn't be his job to manage expectations for the board if that's what he's doing - it should be his job to scream and shout to get more players in because if we don't we're getting relegated...if he comes out and says he wants 4 players in key positions then the pressure is on ashley and charnley isn't it? so he's either afraid to say it, doesn't think it needs saying, or is complicit with the cunts in charge take your pick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I still can't believe that many think a centre back and striker followed by a winger are the most important signings. Two new and good central midfielders will significantly improve us all over the pitch. We don't need 2 new central midfielders, we desparately need a good, imposing, defensive midfielder but more than anything else we need a goal scorer. We're not creating bucket loads of chances (2 new midfielders, ones we could attract aren't going to change that) so we need someone who is more likely to convert those chances. I'd say we need a goal scorer followed by a defensive midfielder (if we can then play 1 defensive man and not 2, that in itself will allow more attacking options) and then a new centre back. It's been said time and time again but the money we spent pre season could and should have resolved all 3 positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I still can't believe that many think a centre back and striker followed by a winger are the most important signings. Two new and good central midfielders will significantly improve us all over the pitch. I thought this too, but I'm worried about goals given yesterday's underlining of that massive issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 New backbone is needed. And the more I watch Dummet, the more I see the need for a left back as well CB DM CF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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