Collage Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kaizero said: OGS has based his entire managerial style on Sir Alex Ferguson. Obviously won't have been able to replicate that, but with the "leaks" regarding how he ran training and such with words on a whiteboard being the extent of it, does this mean that Sir Alex was a PFM? (in management style that is, not measured by success) Also thinking how our very own Steve Bruce ran his training. There's two Sir Alex pupils apparently emulating Sir Alex by writing "go win" on a board. What’s your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Fucking hell it’s Alan Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Collage said: What’s your point? There's no point, it's a question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, Anon said: Would love to see Bruce ruin Ronaldo. Rocker can draw that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Kaizero said: There's no point, it's a question. You wonder if Sir Alex could be described as a PFM? I’d say he wasn’t, as he was great at changing with the times. Unlike, for example, Steve Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Was also, significantly, a genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 There’s only so much you can ”pick up” from a great manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 As a relatively young manger, I think it's fair enough to try and model your footballing philosophy or managerial style on Sir Alex Ferguson, he's one of the best in history after all, but you do still need to have the ability to pull it off or at least get close. It's understandable though and at least he's picked a great manager to base himself on, it's just not worked out like that, just like it wouldn't have for quite a lot of managers. He could have sought inspiration from another Manchester United legend, Steve Bruce of course, but I guess that would be like trying to be the Michael Schumacher of skiing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Collage said: You wonder if Sir Alex could be described as a PFM? I’d say he wasn’t, as he was great at changing with the times. Unlike, for example, Steve Bruce. Was more thinking the style of training, where just writing stuff on whiteboards seem to be the prevalent means Obviously very different gravity to a situation where Sir Alex Ferguson shouts at you to go out there and fucking win compared to an OGS or Bacon Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Bit weird, never seen this type of thing before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Ferguson knew how to delegate. He was big picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: Was also, significantly, a genius fergies true genius was the ability to bring in new coaches with new ideas as time went on, just think how different football was in 86 when he started at man utd to 2013 when he left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, jdckelly said: fergies true genius was the ability to bring in new coaches with new ideas as time went on, just think how different football was in 86 when he started at man utd to 2013 when he left https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/sir-alex-ferguson-assistant-manager-24979838.amp You can easily see how the team and style evolved with all the assistants over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, jdckelly said: fergies true genius was the ability to bring in new coaches with new ideas as time went on, just think how different football was in 86 when he started at man utd to 2013 when he left Part of it, for sure. Most significant I think is that he had everyone, players, officials, etc eating out of his hand. Genius manipulator of people. Served his apprenticeship as a union steward and was the same in that environment. Absolutely everyone terrified of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: Part of it, for sure. Most significant I think is that he had everyone, players, officials, etc eating out of his hand. Genius manipulator of people. Served his apprenticeship as a union steward and was the same in that environment. Absolutely everyone terrified of him. He's slap the shit out of you or throw a boot at you if you disobeyed him. I still think he'd do it now. No one would challenge him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 We’ve all met people like that in other walks of life, people who put the fear in you but you respect. Whatever you think of the man, he was clearly a genius communicator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Ferguson knew how to delegate. He was big picture. Isn’t it pretty much common knowledge that he didn’t even attend training on a daily basis? Left it to the coaches while he was in the office moving the “big picture” items around for the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, joeyt said: Bit weird, never seen this type of thing before Wish we had done one with Bruce tbh lol Would have been ripped to shreds by pundits as being humiliating and patronizing. Sure this will be praised as being classy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Anon said: Would love to see Bruce ruin Ronaldo. Give him the Ben Arfa treatment. "He doesn't track back" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Dr Venkman said: Rocker can draw that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Ole was Man U's version of the Glenn Roeder appointment. It just took the Manc players a lot longer to figure out trophies do matter a bit more than having an easy life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/19732098.former-newcastle-boss-steve-bruce-tipped-manchester-united/ #BruceIn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Hope that's true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Hope that's true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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