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When you look at the managers that aint pfm's that are out of work it makes it even more strange how Moyes (& potentially Allardyce) are walking back into PL jobs, imagine being a West Ham fan now :lol: not up there with Carver or Kinnear but fucking hell.

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The concern for young British managers shouldn't be foreigners taking jobs but these proven British failures going round and round, boring everyone to death everywhere they go.

 

Absolutely. Dyche and Howe are two of the better known younger managers who have made a name for themselves, but I'll bet there are a few more in the lower leagues who would do better than either Moyes or Allardyce given the resources. The real problem is with the absolute lack of football knowledge in boardrooms. You just have to look at our club as a prime example.

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I actually hope he does a decent job. Would just prove how nobody stood any chance of saving that lot last season.

 

Probably not but as far as Moyes goes he's done 3 awful jobs in a row since Everton.

 

That's not a coincidence, it's not just Sunderland.

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I actually hope he does a decent job. Would just prove how nobody stood any chance of saving that lot last season.

 

Probably not but as far as Moyes goes he's done 3 awful jobs in a row since Everton.

 

That's not a coincidence, it's not just Sunderland.

 

False equivalence imo. Sunderland being absolutely shit and being certain relegation fodder doesn't mean that he's not a shit manager and vice versa.

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Moyes:

He added: "I've managed five clubs since starting out nearly 20 years ago at Preston and then going to Everton. My period at Manchester United is well documented and I then did something I have always wanted to do by experiencing management abroad, with Real Sociedad.

 

"It's only been the last job where I feel it wasn't a good move and I didn't enjoy the experience. So I'm hungry to make sure I get things right now.

 

"I don't know any manager who hasn't gone through negative periods, especially in the game today. I hope it gives me great strength and understanding of what is required."

Ouch  :lol: :lol: 

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I actually hope he does a decent job. Would just prove how nobody stood any chance of saving that lot last season.

 

Probably not but as far as Moyes goes he's done 3 awful jobs in a row since Everton.

 

That's not a coincidence, it's not just Sunderland.

 

False equivalence imo. Sunderland being absolutely shit and being certain relegation fodder doesn't mean that he's not a shit manager and vice versa.

 

True but look at the garbage managers that did keep them up with arguably worse squads

 

I don't think there's been a Sunderland squad anywhere near as bad as that in the Premier League aside from 02/03, and that went down with one of the lowest points totals ever. They completely stood still in terms of signings having just narrowly avoided relegation the season before. They were going down from day one imo.

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I dunno, like. At least their 02/03 squad had Kevin Phillips, who was a proven PL striker.

 

This, on the other hand, is really bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Sunderland_A.F.C._season#First-team_squad

 

Jon Stead, one goal in all competitions.  :lol:

 

How the f*** we ended 7th that season is ridiculous.

 

Viva Glenn Roeder.

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I dunno, like. At least their 02/03 squad had Kevin Phillips, who was a proven PL striker.

 

This, on the other hand, is really bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Sunderland_A.F.C._season#First-team_squad

 

Jon Stead, one goal in all competitions.  :lol:

 

Also went down though. That does run it close, mind. Christ.

 

There can't have been a worse Sunderland team that stayed up, mind.

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I actually hope he does a decent job. Would just prove how nobody stood any chance of saving that lot last season.

 

Probably not but as far as Moyes goes he's done 3 awful jobs in a row since Everton.

 

That's not a coincidence, it's not just Sunderland.

 

False equivalence imo. Sunderland being absolutely s*** and being certain relegation fodder doesn't mean that he's not a s*** manager and vice versa.

 

True but look at the garbage managers that did keep them up with arguably worse squads

 

I don't think there's been a Sunderland squad anywhere near as bad as that in the Premier League aside from 02/03, and that went down with one of the lowest points totals ever. They completely stood still in terms of signings having just narrowly avoided relegation the season before. They were going down from day one imo.

Was 05/06 not worse? They went down with 15 points that year.
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I actually hope he does a decent job. Would just prove how nobody stood any chance of saving that lot last season.

 

Probably not but as far as Moyes goes he's done 3 awful jobs in a row since Everton.

 

That's not a coincidence, it's not just Sunderland.

 

False equivalence imo. Sunderland being absolutely shit and being certain relegation fodder doesn't mean that he's not a shit manager and vice versa.

 

True but look at the garbage managers that did keep them up with arguably worse squads

 

I don't think there's been a Sunderland squad anywhere near as bad as that in the Premier League aside from 02/03, and that went down with one of the lowest points totals ever. They completely stood still in terms of signings having just narrowly avoided relegation the season before. They were going down from day one imo.

 

Yeah true, what was the one that Poyet kept up like? I can't really remember it but weren't they playing connor wickham up front?

 

It had Johnson, Ki, Larsson and Borini. The likes of Brown, O'Shea, Cattermole etc hadn't achieved peak shitness yet either.

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