TRon Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 He was absolutely rubbish at Sociedad considering the squad he had at his disposal. If you looked at the way he built his team at Everton, you would pretty much predict he would struggle with Spanish football. Like Allardyce, he's very much old school English football manager. Up and at 'em lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Great title Disco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 He can't possibly be as bad as he was at Sunderland. Reckon they'll stay up quite comfortably, lots of quality to call upon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Remember when we were told they wanted Rafa? Still going to needlessly worry about Rafa going to Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I actually hope he does a decent job. Would just prove how nobody stood any chance of saving that lot last season. Probably not but as far as Moyes goes he's done 3 awful jobs in a row since Everton. That's not a coincidence, it's not just Sunderland. False equivalence imo. Sunderland being absolutely shit and being certain relegation fodder doesn't mean that he's not a shit manager and vice versa. True but look at the garbage managers that did keep them up with arguably worse squads I don't think there's been a Sunderland squad anywhere near as bad as that in the Premier League aside from 02/03, and that went down with one of the lowest points totals ever. They completely stood still in terms of signings having just narrowly avoided relegation the season before. They were going down from day one imo. Yeah true, what was the one that Poyet kept up like? I can't really remember it but weren't they playing connor wickham up front? It had Johnson, Ki, Larsson and Borini. The likes of Brown, O'Shea, Cattermole etc hadn't achieved peak shitness yet either. Fair point. Have a look at those incoming transfers tho, I genuinely don’t think I’ve seen a worse list, it’s great Glorious. I'm just pleased that there's a shittest Sunderland squad debate with plenty of competition for number 1. So pleased that they're finally fucking off for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I have to say I do enjoy the spin on the official site (which I know is obvious): "He proved with Everton that he has great qualities" - so.... four jobs ago. "Moyes won the Community Shield at Wembley in August – becoming the first Manchester United manager ever to win a trophy in his first season in charge" - technically true, I guess. And this belting final paragraph "In November 2014, he took over at Real Sociedad for a year-long spell in Spain’s La Liga, leading the club to a famous win over Barcelona in January 2015, before returning to the Premier League in the summer of 2016 with Sunderland, where a difficult year ended in relegation last season." That is some damn fine straw clutching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Everton owners first choice is Simeone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Everton owners first choice is Simeone I'm sure it is, but they don't stand a chance of getting him. Signed a new contract in the summer, didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I have to say I do enjoy the spin on the official site (which I know is obvious): "He proved with Everton that he has great qualities" - so.... four jobs ago. "Moyes won the Community Shield at Wembley in August – becoming the first Manchester United manager ever to win a trophy in his first season in charge" - technically true, I guess. And this belting final paragraph "In November 2014, he took over at Real Sociedad for a year-long spell in Spain’s La Liga, leading the club to a famous win over Barcelona in January 2015, before returning to the Premier League in the summer of 2016 with Sunderland, where a difficult year ended in relegation last season." That is some damn fine straw clutching. Even better when you consider the context of the "famous win over Barcelona", Sociedad away has been Barca's bogey fixture for ages. They won there last season but before that, hadn't won at Anoeta in ten years, since Rijkaard was in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 He could be without a club and they still don't have chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Everton do know it's early November and they're not miles adrift at the bottom of the league don't they? I don't think people on the outside appreciate what a total mess we're in. We can't defend and can't score goals. Most games we struggle to create a single clear chance. The squad is completely unbalanced with a dearth of wingers and strikers and an abundance of defensive midfielders and shit No. 10's who are slower than your nan. All of our defenders are either kids or over the hill. We'd be bottom with about 2 points if it wasn't for Pickford. Someone for the longer term like Silva or Dyche would be preferable but I'd have no qualms with Allardyce coming in and playing his dinosaur percentage football to grind out a few 1-0's until January, when we can make some much needed signings. If they leave Unsworth in charge and we drift onto January playing like we are now, we'll already be down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Allardyce will come in and beat us, no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Moyes is also obviously a short term fix like Allardyce. He's only been given until the end of the season at West Ham, again, like Fat Sam, he's probably been signed to sort their defence out and keep them up. Hopefully he'll do that, then they'll feel obliged to give him a longer contract so he can slowly bleed the life out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I hope Everton go down. With that fat mess at the helm too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'm confident he'll return to being The Ordinary Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mole_Toonfan Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If the bottom 4 or 5 aren't worse than they are currently showing then yeah i think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just saw this, wtf are they thinking. Moyes is done, three jobs in a row have proven that. As one of the teams we are competing against, this is great news but honestly why are they not taking a lead from the likes of Southampton or Watford and bringing in coaches/managers who are up and coming and are still relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 That's really good. I laughed a little too much. "We're not becoming the laughing stock...it's just...the joke is getting funnier" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I associate Moyes at Everton with teams that were more hard for the rest to beat, rather than being free-flowing or especially creative. His record against the top teams was always poor. He wasn't at Man United long enough to sort out their defence, so I'll give him a pass on that, but his inability to organise Sunderland or even leave them with defenders who can manage at Championship level strongly points to him being a busted flush. This is a terrible appointment by two inept owners and their high profile idiot sidekick. With their free stadium courtesy of the taxpayer, I can't have any sympathy for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I associate Moyes at Everton with teams that were more hard for the rest to beat, rather than being free-flowing or especially creative. His record against the top teams was always poor. He wasn't at Man United long enough to sort out their defence, so I'll give him a pass on that, but his inability to organise Sunderland or even leave them with defenders who can manage at Championship level strongly points to him being a busted flush. This is a terrible appointment by two inept owners and their high profile idiot sidekick. With their free stadium courtesy of the taxpayer, I can't have any sympathy for them. The thing is as well Moyes's success at Everton was not instant, they were awful in that first season with him, I think we beat them 6-2 or something that year, they very nearly went down, it wasn't until the following year that they started to do well. It's difficult to see the logic here for West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 He won 4, drew 1 and lost 4. Three of the defeats were to us, Arsenal & Chelsea all away who finished top 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Truly looking like Fergie's successor on that Youtube thumbnail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 West Ham have completely sold their soul moving stadiums. Ah well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 "Moyes is concrete, he's taking us down". Creased Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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