gjohnson Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Bit disingenuous to the Chinese. 14th highest league revenue in the world in 2019 and growing. One of the most watched leagues in the world and football is developing fast there. For a guy like Rafa being part of a defining moment in a country's footballing history seems a perfect match. He wasn't even paid that well according to reports. Not really....it might have a lot of viewers but it's still massively behind the top leagues....years behind even the MLS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kaizero said: I read it was for the extent of the contract, which would be £12m / 3 years = £4m. £12m a year would be Man City levels of money, Dalian isn't that rich. Everything I read at the time and pulled up just there suggests £12m a year was the salary. It might be wrong, but that is pretty much all the British press getting it wrong at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Not really....it might have a lot of viewers but it's still massively behind the top leagues....years behind even the MLS Hence the project part of it. He'd be part of defining Chinese football in history if things went to plan. Edited June 30, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 The fume from the Everton fans almost makes this good, almost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Love him still. Hope it all goes to pot though very selfishly. Will hate to see him succeed at another club, just too painful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dokko said: Everything I read at the time and pulled up just there suggests £12m a year was the salary. It might be wrong, but that is pretty much all the British press getting it wrong at the time. I just recall the articles when he left, but I won't argue to much as I don't know what he got paid. Either way he'd get paid good money wherever he'd gone, but if it was actually £12m a year then good on you Rafa, that's insane levels of money. 6th best paid manager in the world at the time if so. The latter is why I feel it can't be right, the guy who replaced Rafa is a literal nobody. You'd imagine they'd at least get a big league reject in to replace him if they can afford £12m a year on their manager. Edited June 30, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Gutted about Rafa, just can't fathom his thinking with this move at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kaizero said: I just recall the articles when he left, but I won't say I know what he got paid Either way he'd get paid good money wherever he'd gone. Tbf British press are fucking lazy, 1 says something and thry all repeat it like fact without any journalism involved. Apart from the Daily Star who go full muppet mode and go with 5 TIMES HIS £6m a YEAR SALARY. Anyway, so if you've read something different on the continent I'd probably stick with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Hence the project part of it. He'd be part of defining Chinese football in history if things went to plan. 4 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Hence the project part of it. He'd be part of defining Chinese football in history if things went to plan. Was never going to happen though... His Chinese stop was never about a project and always just building the bank balance. Dozens of other clubs could have offered him a 'project' , but not as many giving a 12m salary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I honestly never though he would go to Everton like. It is very strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: Gutted about Rafa, just can't fathom his thinking with this move at all. How come? Big PL club offers him a job which he's interested in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: Tbf British press are fucking lazy, 1 says something and thry all repeat it like fact without any journalism involved. Apart from the Daily Star who go full muppet mode and go with 5 TIMES HIS £6m a YEAR SALARY. Anyway, so if you've read something different on the continent I'd probably stick with that. I just can't get over the fact he'd have been the 6th best paid manager in the world at the time if it was £12m, at a club called Dalian Pro, then replaced by a guy whose career highlight was two seasons as manager of Cadiz. It makes no sense Edited June 30, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: How come? Big PL club offers him a job which he's interested in? The Liverpool thing obviously. And that most of them hate him. Edited June 30, 2021 by ToonArmy1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Kanji said: Good luck to Rafa, a legend in my eyes forever. Wish him success there. I hope he proves any doubters (everton fans) wrong. Im conflicted. On one hand I hope he proves them wrong and on the other hand I’d hate it as the Everton fans don’t deserve success under him Edited June 30, 2021 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Was never going to happen though... His Chinese stop was never about a project and always just building the bank balance. Dozens of other clubs could have offered him a 'project' , but not as many giving a 12m salary How do you know it wasn't about a project? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Wish Rafa all the best, although I wished he wouldnt manage another PL team. Would be canny if he has a slow start, then we beat him while our entire supports sings the Rafa song all game. Would piss off Bruce and the Everton fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Okay, I enjoyed this one I finally hit the life milestone where I get angry over a misplaced apostrophe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, thomas said: I finally hit the life milestone where I get angry over a misplaced apostrophe. I thought it was a play on Scouse people being unable to speak like a normal person so I didn't get annoyed Now you pointed out it's likely actually just a misplaced apostrophe the anger has consumed me as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 This hurts, man To such a cunt club too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: You’ve not answered what the project was in China? Nobody said money wasn't a factor in him moving to China, he was also very upfront about wanting to take a job to keep his team in work. They won't all be as highly paid as Rafa, though probably not on the bones of their arse. Ref the project go and look at the training complex they ploughed money into under his direction, something he was always trying to get at nufc. It'll have been the same for scouting etc. as well no doubt, he was being allowed to build a club in his image when it started. He went to a club that looked like it had ambition to overhaul the current status quo in Chinese football and was gonna get the backing to do it. Sadly things didn't work out, that doesn't mean he wasn't taking on a project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, gdm said: Im conflicted. On one hand I hope he proves them wrong and on the other hand I’d hate it as the Everton fans don’t deserve success under him I'm not conflicted at all. I hope he fails spectacularly. Nothing against him but I cannot stand Everton fans and it will be galling to see them succeed, bearing in mind how much contempt they have for us. Benitez is simply another part of NUFC history now and should be fondly remembered but absolutely not revered. An excellent manager for us but nowhere near being a legend. Legendary status is reserved for a very select few. Kevin Keegan, Joe Harvey, Jackie Milburn are NUFC legends. Rafa Benitez isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, joeyt said: How do you know it wasn't about a project? Please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Good luck to him. He was never coming back here unless there was a change in ownership - and that seems a million miles away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Some odd opinions on this in here like. "Can't fathom his thinking" and my personal favorite "It's like Keegan to the Mackems!!". Get a grip man. He's back in the league he enjoys, he's back in a city where his family home is located, bags of cash to spend and despite the negativity coming his way, he's never given a flying fuck what anyone thinks about his choices. I like and respect the man immensely, it's grim he's gone to a club where he's not going to find the level of respect and appreciation we gave him but that's it, time to move on, we have our own problems to worry about. Namely an indestructible, gargantuan cunt of an owner and a thick patsy wanker manager we can't get rid of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: Please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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