gazza ladra Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Bradley never should have been hired at Swansea. He didn't deserve a shot at the job because Bradley's track record wasn't anything special. Actually, it was pretty poor and the football was turgid. I read what you wrote and it's absolute nonsense: 1) "Made the US a competitive outfit on the world stage." No, that was Bruce Arena. 2) "compare that achievement to what his replacement managed to do (tank the US completely) with a much better pool of players." 2) Klinsmann had a better pool of players because he went out and found them instead of relying on a pool of MLS dregs (My God, how long was he going to stick with Carlos Bocanegra? Carlos Bocanegra, team captain. Jesus Fucking Christ.). Klinsmann gave us 2014, the best year in US soccer history. Out of the Group of Death and into the last 16. All this bile for JK, you must be a Landycakes man. I agree about Marco Silva. The criticism was nonsensical. But do you seriously believe that managing the Chicago Fire or MetroStars is comparable to managing Sporting Lisbon or Olympiakos? I agree about Ryan Giggs too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Surely if the argument for Bradley is 'he did well in lesser leagues' then there's hundreds of managers that deserve a chance in the Premier League in front of him because there's plenty of better leagues than Ligue 2 and Norwegian division and there will be loads of managers who have done well in those better leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Not sure why Kaiz fangirls over Bradley like. The stick he got coming in was ridiculous (it wasn't because he was American) but he showed nothing in his short time at Swansea to suggest it was worth persevering with him (or that he was the right choice to begin with). He chose to go to a struggling side in the middle of a season, it's the risk you take. The media did worse to Marco Silva. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 His team conceded 29 goals in the 11 games he had in charge, he was an absolute sham and he didn't deserve the chance he got based on his performance in lesser leagues - he got it because Swansea's American owners wanted an American manager . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think his record in the lower forrin leagues would be fine if he was in his early 40s. But at nearly 60? I just cannot see what there would be to get excited about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Tbf to the media - the tune has changed quickly with Marco Silva. Results and football speak for themselves. Nobody wants to be on the wrong side of history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Aye that's what I mean. Silva has so far made the media look like the mugs they are, Bradley 'proved them right'. Any foreign manager coming into the Premiership with an unglamorous record (ie they haven't won anything in Spain, Italy or Germany) is going to be heavily scrutinised by the media, it's just how it is. It's pathetic but in Bradley's sense I can see the hesitation, I would have been pretty miffed as a Swansea fan. On the other side of the coin as a Hull fan I think I would have been excited about Silva, not because of his exotic non-American name but because he's a young manager who's had a lot of success everywhere he's been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Bradley wasn't the right appointment for them and they were right to sack him. The sad thing is he'll never get another look in England again, based on 11 matches. While PFMs who are proven to be both cunts and tragically shit managers will continue to ride the carousel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Could get a job in the Champo or League 1 tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Aye if he got a club promoted and stabalised them in the Premiership he'd be set for life. It's what Allardyce and Pulis did. Easy gig from then on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Aye if he got a club promoted and stabalised them in the Premiership he'd be set for life. It's what Allardyce and Pulis did. Easy gig from then on. Doing that is difficult though. Howe is struggling with that. If he can keep Bournemouth in the PL for another couple seasons he could land a big job if he wants it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Was far easier for pulis to do it with the financial backing he had mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Was far easier for pulis to do it with the financial backing he had mind. Howe's wasted a hell of a lot of money on players he rarely plays and he's had plenty of financial backing. I don't remember Pulis spending loads of money initially when Stoke got promoted. He did after a couple of seasons in the Prem though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Was far easier for pulis to do it with the financial backing he had mind. He did have good money at Stoke but the Palace & WBA jobs have been done on average budgets. Howe has wasted a lot of money. Allardyce has always been backed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Was far easier for pulis to do it with the financial backing he had mind. Howe's wasted a hell of a lot of money on players he rarely plays and he's had plenty of financial backing. I don't remember Pulis spending loads of money initially when Stoke got promoted. He did after a couple of seasons in the Prem though His net spend () was mental at Stoke when they first came up. Bought a hell of a lot of shite, a lot of it from the mackems, that they then had to make a loss. Ken Jones, Kitson, Tonge, Beattie, Tuncay etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Bielsa to Lille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Lee Clark left Kilmarnock to become Bury's new manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Villa fans wanting us to hammer them so that Bruce will be gone. They sound like us when we wanted Pardew out https://www.villatalk.com/topic/16169-prematch-thread/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Lee Clark left Kilmarnock to become Bury's new manager Tells everything when the managers of Hearts and Kilmarnock are seeing MK Dons and Bury as good career moves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Villa fans wanting us to hammer them so that Bruce will be gone. They sound like us when we wanted Pardew out https://www.villatalk.com/topic/16169-prematch-thread/ Oh my goodness! Already?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I know this is bad form, but if we go up and they actually go down this year, I want some revenge for their antics at Villa Park when we went down. Maybe dropping "who's your messiah now?" leaflets from the air all over their stadium last game of the season? If they hadn't acted like such cunts back then, I would seriously feel bad for them, as I never cared or hated Villa before then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 small time thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 They will have had their punishment if they don't get promoted because I can't see them coming up for quite a few years. Brummie is one of the best posters on here, so I'll cut Villa some slack, after Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I've got a soft spot for Villa... I was in a Villa pub the other night and while they clearly dislike NUFC for some odd reason, the people we were talking to seemed sound enough. Like us they are sick of how their club has been run/owned pretty much since time began. Ellis, Lerner etc. Had some canny craic with a few about Graham Taylor as well, seemed a fucking great bloke from what I heard. Oh and Brummie.... I wish nothing but happiness for him as a footy fan as he's been through the ringer just like us and is practically one of us being an N.O member. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Bruce will get it right if he survives this season. They should have appointed him at the start of the season or even last season if they could have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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