Jagten Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, gdm said: Is he? 2 wins in 18 games? Imagine when we had a similar run under Bruce and we were told he was doing ok? Underlying numbers are actually OK (e.g. biggest underperformance here https://understat.com/league/EPL, but can't comment on their model). Thought Leeds fans were split on him, unlike our boy Brucey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dokko said: Crazy. He's doing OK. Jesse ”go out there and be the best version of yourself” Marsch? Many Leeds fans seem to hate him and it’s perfectly understandable. Imagine going from Bielsa to that. Edited January 17, 2023 by Collage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jagten said: Underlying numbers are actually OK (e.g. biggest underperformance here https://understat.com/league/EPL, but can't comment on their model). Thought Leeds fans were split on him, unlike our boy Brucey? They wanted him out then he won two games now they want him out again judging only by what I see and hear obviously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 There’s weird anti-Americanism with Marsch imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Marsch seems to be one of those coaches who relies entirely on talking a good game and motivating his players. I'm not sure there's much more to him than that. I'm about 80% certain it will end in Leeds getting relegated or Leeds sacking him before they go down. Not necessarily this year mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: There’s weird anti-Americanism with Marsch imo. If a PFM had 8 wins in 30 games into a new job, he'd get a bit stick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: If a PFM had 8 wins in 30 games into a new job, he'd get a bit stick? I don't think the results have been good enough either. But some of the flack is unwarranted. I think their performances have been better than the results this season. They are competitive. They don't look far from a midtable team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, The Bonk said: Marsch talks a big game and I don’t mind him, but Leeds have underperformed during his tenure. I think the results have seemed like under performing, but the squad has been playing out of their skin. TCD is right. It's completely an anti-American thing. Gets that Ted Lasso label bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) I'm sure you think you're being level-headed there, but it's only because you can't see the chips on both your shoulders. They've won 2 in 16, anyone would get the spotlight on them for that. Their overall record is almost identical to Leicester's. Rodgers, an FA Cup winner and Premier League runner up has had much more jip than Marsch. Edited January 17, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnMag Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Conte`s latest rant Quote https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64308907 "In England I think there's a bad habit that it's only the coach [who] talks and explains," said Conte. "I've never seen the medical department coming here to explain. I've never seen the club or the sporting director coming here to explain the strategy or vision of the club . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I'm sure you think you're being level-headed there, but it's only because you can't see the chips on both your shoulders. They've won 2 in 16, anyone would get the spotlight on them for that. Their overall record is almost identical to Leicester's. Rodgers, an FA Cup winner and Premier League runner up has had much more jip than Marsch. I have no affinity to Marsch or the USA. I've said it, they've underperformed points wise. 17 points from 18. How many points should Leeds get after 38 games? IMO 40-46. That's an underperformance for sure but not massively. When i've watched them, they've been competitive and a bit unlucky. The players look motivated to me. They don't look far from becoming a decent team. I don't think they're on for relegation and Marsch *might* be onto whatever it is they brought him in to do. Yes a team that has won trophies in the last decade should have higher expectations than Leeds United. That much would seem obvious. Conte's right too. In England upper management and other people hide behind the manager. No accountability. We had years of minimal soundbites from what's his name at Forest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Leeds haven’t been great under Marsch this season, but I agree with Dokko and TCD. They’ve spent a good bit of money getting him the players to fit what he’s trying to build…let him try to build it. They’re scoring at a decent clip, just shipping a few too many also. Maybe he’ll come good, maybe not. Lot of season left, but they haven’t looked like one of the 3 (or even 5) worst teams so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 At no point this season have I ever thought 'Leeds are going down'. Granted that's not to say they should be higher but it's not bad enough to justify sacking him imo. Obviously Leeds fans know and watch their team a lot more than I do and if they're united in wanting him out then it'll probably happen, I just see the point in getting a new guy in, backing him financially, letting him start to build a squad then binning him before it's had a genuine chance to take hold and grow. It just seems a very skittish and panicky move from a petrified boardroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, midds said: At no point this season have I ever thought 'Leeds are going down'. Granted that's not to say they should be higher but it's not bad enough to justify sacking him imo. Obviously Leeds fans know and watch their team a lot more than I do and if they're united in wanting him out then it'll probably happen, I just see the point in getting a new guy in, backing him financially, letting him start to build a squad then binning him before it's had a genuine chance to take hold and grow. It just seems a very skittish and panicky move from a petrified boardroom. I think it might also be due to their boardroom composition. Was reading that the San Francisco 49ers investment group have an option to buy and have dithered on it while Leeds are bleeding cash and fear going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Tomato Deuce said: Leeds haven’t been great under Marsch this season, but I agree with Dokko and TCD. They’ve spent a good bit of money getting him the players to fit what he’s trying to build…let him try to build it. They’re scoring at a decent clip, just shipping a few too many also. Maybe he’ll come good, maybe not. Lot of season left, but they haven’t looked like one of the 3 (or even 5) worst teams so far. Liked what I saw when we played them. Seemed to be very aggressive and extremely adventurous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lazarus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Salernitana have appointed a new manager. Its the same bloke they sacked 2 days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, 54 said: So either way Moyes has a job after that game. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Lazarus said: Salernitana have appointed a new manager. Its the same bloke they sacked 2 days ago. Absolutely peak Serie A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Lazarus said: Salernitana have appointed a new manager. Its the same bloke they sacked 2 days ago. Has he had to return his payoff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Dokko said: So either way Moyes has a job after that game. ? Might as well just swap dugouts at half time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Lazarus said: Salernitana have appointed a new manager. Its the same bloke they sacked 2 days ago. Who's the manager, Ivano Toneyetti? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said: Might as well just swap dugouts at half time Reminds me of Ron Atkinson trying to sit in his former clubs dugout. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Who's the manager, Ivano Toneyetti? Davide Nicola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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