The Managerial Merry Go Round™ - Postecoglu told to rack off by Spurs

[Daysleeper]

it’s a results driven business, he wasn’t very good at it, not that I care about them entitled knobs, get over it girlfriend. 

[joeyt]

 

 

[samptime29]

I can see both viewpoints on Ange tbh. Their league form was wank this season. They lost far too many games. The level of performances weren't good enough. 

 

I do think people are glossing over the injury crisis they had. It was arguably worse than the one we had last season. Any team that loses their 2 best centre backs for most of the season, is gonna have a hard time. Still shouldn't be finishing 17th but it was clear to me towards end of season, he was totally focused on Europa League.

 

I wonder how Frank will perform if he gets the job. Would be intriguing for sure.

 

 

[Mike]

Am I mental or is the widespread reaction of shock that he was sacked mental @leffe186? People lamenting that trophies no longer matter as if 22 fucking losses doesn't also matter.

[toon25]

6 hours ago, joeyt said:

 

 

 

Arrogant little fuck, that Jones.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

6 hours ago, samptime29 said:

I can see both viewpoints on Ange tbh. Their league form was wank this season. They lost far too many games. The level of performances weren't good enough. 

 

I do think people are glossing over the injury crisis they had. It was arguably worse than the one we had last season. Any team that loses their 2 best centre backs for most of the season, is gonna have a hard time. Still shouldn't be finishing 17th but it was clear to me towards end of season, he was totally focused on Europa League.

 

I wonder how Frank will perform if he gets the job. Would be intriguing for sure.

 

 

That’s true regarding injuries to a point, the counter argument would be despite the injuries he refused to change their high line, until that is he remembered how to be more pragmatic when they got to the latter stages of the EL

[healthyaddiction]

He still had enough of a first 11 to not finish 17th, and their form really didn't improve when the player's came back. I don't think the injuries excuse holds much water.

[Doops]

It wasn't just last seasons form either. The second half of his first year was also rubbish.

[samptime29]

11 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

That’s true regarding injuries to a point, the counter argument would be despite the injuries he refused to change their high line, until that is he remembered how to be more pragmatic when they got to the latter stages of the EL

 

A fair point. 

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

Gasperini takes over at Roma

[toon25]

9 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

Gasperini takes over at Roma

 

[Jonas]

By winning the cup Ange effectively highlighted his limitations.

He cant do anything in competitions involving top teams, but can win cups populated exclusively by second and third rate ones. Ergo he's no use to them this side of the next Europe League/Conference League campaign, which he'd be sacked for qualifying for anyway.

 

[leffe186]

14 hours ago, Mike said:

Am I mental or is the widespread reaction of shock that he was sacked mental @leffe186? People lamenting that trophies no longer matter as if 22 fucking losses doesn't also matter.

One of those times you have to make a decision and the overall sum of the reaction will be the same either way.

 

1. Loads of vocal opposition from some of your fanbase

2. Loads of support from some of your fanbase.

3. Trolls in the media have angles to attack you from.

4. Opposing fans who (rightly) are supposed to take the piss have angles to attack you from

 

Nobody with a brain or good faith should be shocked. Angry or disappointed, sure, but shocked would mean you were…stupid or in bad faith. People who want to lump on (the Telegraph article for one) were always going to find a way to do so. It was a massive, critical and difficult decision that was time-dependent for a ton of reasons and I think on balance they may just about have done it right. We’ll see.

 

What you want to do is look at a forum of opposing fans that is generally intelligent and honest and see what they say: 

“Ange effectively highlighted his limitations”

”It wasn’t just last season’s form either”

”Hope[sic] they would give him another crack Ten Hag style.  They might hire someone competent.”

”Shame, clearly the right decision for Spurs”

 

Again, nobody worth listening to is actually shocked. Equally though, nobody worth listening to should pretend there weren’t reasons to keep him. We’ve just won a bloody trophy for the first time in ages. There was real togetherness and joy between team and fans - and club and manager - just look at the parade scenes. The players as a whole seem to love him. You’re risking losing all of that good will and cohesion. We were and are still a squad in transition. Maybe the injuries weren’t to a great extent his fault. Maybe Ryan Mason was holding us back. Maybe that ability to adapt tactics was a sign of things to come. Maybe maybe maybe.

 

To your specifics, again, anyone pretending trophies don’t matter is gaslighting you. One still of that parade should be enough to silence them (just like one still of a Presidential inauguration ceremony). People pretending that 22 losses - that an awful lot of people paid an awful lot of money to watch - don’t matter is also gaslighting you, or themselves. I’ll add my feelings. I’m ecstatic we won a trophy. i feel like we might be less unwatchable going forward. I feel like Frank might be the best appointment for now. I’m nervous for a ton of reasons of course, but that’s the nature of change and big decisions.

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by leffe186

[joeyt]

1 hour ago, leffe186 said:

Maybe Ryan Mason was holding us back. 

 

Is this a genuine thought from Suprs fans? First I've heard of it

[leffe186]

7 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

Is this a genuine thought from Suprs fans? First I've heard of it

Just my little joke.

[joeyt]

@Disco padel nonce

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by joeyt

[Andy84]

23 minutes ago, joeyt said:

@Disco padel nonce

 

 

 

 

Holt 

[gbandit]

That’s journalism at its lowest ebb

[Dokko]

36 minutes ago, joeyt said:

@Disco padel nonce

 

 

 

 

 

Fucking disgusting sycophant.

[Nucasol]

40 minutes ago, joeyt said:

@Disco padel nonce

 

 

 

 

Holt looks like a jelly-bellied building society Finance Director who spends his Sundays slow peddling around B-roads on a £10k bike in his Team Sky head to toe clobber. MAMIL-whopper. 

[STM]

I really like Thomas Frank but in order for him to succeed at Spurs, I suspect he will need 2+ years and I'm not sure he gets that.

 

They will be much tougher to beat with Frank.

[Dr.Spaceman]

16 hours ago, toon25 said:

 

Arrogant little fuck, that Jones.

 

Little man syndrome.

[GeordieDazzler]

2 hours ago, joeyt said:

@Disco padel nonce

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gbandit]

Possibly the worst article ever written 

[alexf]

31 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:

 

 

 

 

Holy hell, I really don't want to go looking for that article or give the mail any clicks, but I am curious to what basis he could possibly form for that argument