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Having Ings, Watkins, Coutinho, Bailey, Watkins and even midfielders like Ramsey and barely being able to get a goal out of them is fucking hilarious.

 

Even though I always liked Lampard as a player much more than I did Gerrard, I had them in the same managerial bracket. Fast-tracked cos of their careers and out of their depth. And yet, it does seem like Tory Frankie is gradually learning and starting to make some inroads, by making Everton a bit harder to beat and getting some home form. Gerrard has spent loads of cash and regressed Villa a fair bit which to me is a great shame as it makes his chances of succeeding Klopp and making an arse of the Liverpool job that bit less likely.

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3 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Yeah you may be right, but as you say, it's fucking dreadful.

 

I can't believe these media chumps not understanding how he got sacked.

 

And then that's only based on the points - there's also the toxic fucking character, the refusal to ever acknowledge the away fans, the projection of himself as the most important thing, the appointment of McGinn (the least captain material you'll find) captain, the blatant throwing of players under the bus every week, the dreadful lack of anything that looked like coaching or tactics, the needless ruck he picked with Mings, the bizarre ostracisation of Sanson and Guilbert (been training with the kids).

 

And there's loads more of that sort of thing.

 

I was hoping he would have been kept on a bit longer (not from a Villa perspective, ha), and certainly until at least after next Saturday, but yeah, from an outside perspective, he did feel the main thing holding you back and that a more competent manager would get you up and running pretty sharp, and if you can get in someone with real credentials, like some of those that have been linked, then it will be like chalk and cheese.

 

The fans had obviously turned, VillaTalk was like a bloodbath [emoji38], and when you get to that stage, he has to go, because he was clearly on borrowed time, and a win here and there will just give him a tiny stay of execution, and needlessly delay the inevitable.

 

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I think people have jumped the gun far too quickly with Lampard now supposedly being better than Gerrard like. Everton's results have been okay so far but that's it and I'd put that down to a couple of solid defensive signings and a competetive midfield. Coady and Tarkowski were good signings, especially Coady. Beyond that though, they create very very little and their wing play especially is non-existent. They've had 1 shot on target in the last 2 matches. 1! 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I think people have jumped the gun far too quickly with Lampard now supposedly being better than Gerrard like. Everton's results have been okay so far but that's it and I'd put that down to a couple of solid defensive signings and a competetive midfield. Coady and Tarkowski were good signings, especially Coady. Beyond that though, they create very very little and their wing play especially is non-existent. They've had 1 shot in the last 2 matches. 1!

 

 

 

 

He's ahead of where Gerrard is IMO but it's a low, low fucking bar. You're right in that they look a muddled mess going forwards (much like Villa) but he's at least tightened them up somewhat, managed to get a tune out of Iwobi who looked like the biggest waste of time ever and made a few sensible signings in Coady, Tarkowski, Onana.

 

For what it's worth I don't think Lampard will ever do anything with Everton other than keep them in that 10th-17th zone, he'll likely run out of road at some point. But I don't see him making such a huge arse of it as Gerrard has.

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No big name world class manager wanted to come to us a year ago when we were in a similar situation so I don’t see why they would go to Villa. It obviously worked out well for us but Eddie Howe type managers don’t come along very often.

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1 hour ago, brummie said:

 

Hard to imagine anyone less likely to get it with the previous history between him and Purslow.

 

Didn't your fans have a banner when he was linked several years ago - something like "No to fat Spanish waiter"?

 

 

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1 hour ago, brummie said:

Apparently he was sacked before getting on the team bus.

 

Sawiris getting so angry and storming out at half time last night, followed shortly after by Purslow, that's not a good sign!

Feel like you’re trying to kid yourself a bit here, like all of your club was madly into getting rid of Gerrard and that can only mean brilliant appointments from here. 

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7 minutes ago, Paully said:

 

Didn't your fans have a banner when he was linked several years ago - something like "No to fat Spanish waiter"?

 

 

 

 

I don't remember that at all. I don't even remember him coming close to our job tbh. 

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1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

I think people have jumped the gun far too quickly with Lampard now supposedly being better than Gerrard like. Everton's results have been okay so far but that's it and I'd put that down to a couple of solid defensive signings and a competetive midfield. Coady and Tarkowski were good signings, especially Coady. Beyond that though, they create very very little and their wing play especially is non-existent. They've had 1 shot on target in the last 2 matches. 1! 

 

 

 

Aye - think i've discussed this elsewhere on here. Lampard has understood and worked well in terms of squad dynamics and Gerrard hasn't but that's about it. Lampard's not done anything Alan Pardew can't do. Got the support of his dressing room, added "good characters" and put together a hard-working and committed team who defend as a unit. That's enough to get 8-10 wins at Goodison Park. But that's it. They aren't well coached. 

 

Gerrard didn't even manage that though. And his transfer approach wasn't coherant. Lampard's was coherant. They'll be a hard team to out battle and out run which will get them points. 

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