Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I like Laudrup but looking at his CV it looks like he rapidly loses interest when things ain't going his way. Nevertheless we look like a club that is stagnating and winning us a trophy or CL qualification would fall into the category of challenging/ambitious jobs he always looks for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would people sooner have.... 6 more bastard years of Pardew. Or... 18 months of Laudrup, his style of football, finishing a similar position (7th/9th) and taking a chance on next manager in 2016 ish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Much of the training camp was spent drinking. The players wanted discipline - and did not get it. What a stupid quote, players wanted discipline - they didn't get that, so they went off and did the undisciplined thing and went drinking. Bergkamp joins an eclectic list of front-runners for the job according to bookmakers including Argentine coach Marcelo Bielsa and former Chelsea defender Marcel Desailly. Bielsa, pls no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Be interesting to see how Swansea would have done last year without Michu's goals ....and where NUFC would be THIS season without Remy's....and he isn't even our player... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would people sooner have.... 6 more bastard years of Pardew. Or... 18 months of Laudrup, his style of football, finishing a similar position (7th/9th) and taking a chance on next manager in 2016 ish. Isn't that obvious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Why did Swansea see such a drop in form? seriously? I have my ideas, but they're very similar to the ones that are rejected when Pardew offers them up. So yes, I'm curious what other folk see. It is interesting and i like you to expand on it because you did call him out at the beginning of the season. I know we differ on his and Pardew's merits. I certainly thing Laudrup coaches better football than Pardew and i know we disagree on that. You have however, correctly stated his 'success' as far as it can be called does seem to fall off after a couple of years (same can be said for Pardew, of course). Fwiw, i think he'd do well with our squad and would appreciate the type of players Graham Carr identifies. I think they would be more in tune with each other. I do wonder if his issues at his clubs are down to him agitating for something better or he has just had a remarkable run of bad luck when it comes to chairmen! There's no doubt to me Laudrup coaches a better style of football and I wouldn't want anyone to think otherwise. I also respect that he didn't make any excuses at all, always had a positive outlook and looked to lift his players rather than tell them they are tired even before games. Given the budgets at each club though, and the quality available, I do worry that his methods are too ... idealistic? He absolutely refuses to do what might be effective rather than what he sees as ...pure? Somewhere like Arsenal, if they spend big, someone as wiley as Wenger can sometimes win the league like that. We would have to have someone prepared to do things ugly on occasion though...and that's what Swansea needed too. The only thing I disagreed with at the time was that people were suggesting just about any other manager would be better for Newcastle United. I didn't see the benefit in the upheaval that would be involved if we were to replace someone like Pardew with someone like Laudrup, who hadn't stayed with any job long term and had seen diminishing returns towards the end of his longer spells. Reminiscent of Kevin Keegan at Newcastle in his second spell? My own opinion is that he has good coaching ability, but he probably had his eye on a bigger club and thus wasn't giving Swansea his full attention. That would explain the lack of attention to training and excessive holidays. Would he show a similar attitude at a bigger club? that's the question. Yeah, those were my thoughts too. He did show the ability to get very good football from unexceptional Premiership players eg Wayne Routledge. He does have something about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Christ, if Swansea can get Bielsa it will just kill me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would love to see Bielsa get the Swansea job! Preferably after we play them in the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'd kick off if Swansea get Bielsa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would love to see Bielsa get the Swansea job! Preferably after we play them in the cup. I'd rather we got Bielsa. I could live with finishing 17th with him every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would people sooner have.... 6 more bastard years of Pardew. Or... 18 months of Laudrup, his style of football, finishing a similar position (7th/9th) and taking a chance on next manager in 2016 ish. The latter every day of the weekend given that he isn't a slimy, smarmy cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would love to see Bielsa get the Swansea job! Preferably after we play them in the cup. Nah, Bielsa's teams have always a quite steep learning curve (he's very demanding tactically-wise), so in the short term Swansea would be more vulnerable. I really want him managing an European team again. He's just immense both on and off the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 so 7 managers now sacked. of those that remain; Moyes, Pellegrini, Martinez, Hughes and Mourinho are all new this season too. getting a bit ridiculous now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would love to see Bielsa get the Swansea job! Preferably after we play them in the cup. Nah, Bielsa's teams have always a quite steep learning curve (he's very demanding tactically-wise), so in the short term Swansea would be more vulnerable. I really want him managing an European team again. He's just immense both on and off the pitch. Press would be straight after him, mental foreigner that can't speak English and is at best obsessive and at work has serious mental problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Re: Bielsa Can anyone put our current lot into his 3 3 1 3 formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would love to see Bielsa get the Swansea job! Preferably after we play them in the cup. Nah, Bielsa's teams have always a quite steep learning curve (he's very demanding tactically-wise), so in the short term Swansea would be more vulnerable. I really want him managing an European team again. He's just immense both on and off the pitch. Press would be straight after him, mental foreigner that can't speak English and is at best obsessive and at work has serious mental problems. That's what I love about him though, he's a proper football savant, listening to him in pressers I was always fascinated with his obsessiveness about football. He's obviously a very difficult man to work with, but if you're in tune with what he wants to achieve, it's the kind of man you'd follow to the death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would love to see Bielsa get the Swansea job! Preferably after we play them in the cup. Nah, Bielsa's teams have always a quite steep learning curve (he's very demanding tactically-wise), so in the short term Swansea would be more vulnerable. I really want him managing an European team again. He's just immense both on and off the pitch. Press would be straight after him, mental foreigner that can't speak English and is at best obsessive and at work has serious mental problems. That's what I love about him though, he's a proper football savant, listening to him in pressers I was always fascinated with his obsessiveness about football. He's obviously a very difficult man to work with, but if you're in tune with what he wants to achieve, it's the kind of man you'd follow to the death. as shown by the number of current coaches that credit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Re: Bielsa Can anyone put our current lot into his 3 3 1 3 formation? bjorn3-3-1-3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Williamson Colo MYM Debuchy Anita Santon Sissoko HBA LDJ Remy Hard on Gouff, don't rate Tiote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Top guy is our Huw. Swansea City Chairman Huw Jenkins believes it’s vital everyone gets behind new Head Coach Garry Monk and moves on quickly from Michael Laudrup’s departure. “Everyone needs to move on; get behind us and focus on Saturday’s game,’’ declared Jenkins. “The fact is, Michael’s time with us has come to an end. But I have found some of the things being said about him today hard to stomach. Much of it has been extremely unsavoury and unnecessary. “Too many people have been trying to play the blame game and unearth disrespectful reasons behind his departure. “We were quite open and honest in our official statement, because that’s the way we are as a club. Since then we have tried to keep our own counsel on the matter because we have nothing bad to say about Michael. “He deserves respect for what he has done in the game and you couldn’t meet a more genuine and honest person. “It’s time to move on.’’ http://www.swanseacity.net/news/article/huw-laudrup-statement-1342386.aspx?#C2oATgMjpv8K7CQc.99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Who do you want to see get the job ? and who is most likely ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Imagine liking your Chairman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Would love to see Bielsa get the Swansea job! Preferably after we play them in the cup. Nah, Bielsa's teams have always a quite steep learning curve (he's very demanding tactically-wise), so in the short term Swansea would be more vulnerable. I really want him managing an European team again. He's just immense both on and off the pitch. Press would be straight after him, mental foreigner that can't speak English and is at best obsessive and at work has serious mental problems. That's what I love about him though, he's a proper football savant, listening to him in pressers I was always fascinated with his obsessiveness about football. He's obviously a very difficult man to work with, but if you're in tune with what he wants to achieve, it's the kind of man you'd follow to the death. as shown by the number of current coaches that credit him. It's outrageous how many he's deemed an idol to isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Who do you want to see get the job ? and who is most likely ? I have no idea, every appointment since Flynn 10 years ago has come out of the blue with someone totally unexpected. Flynn was the last one sacked too. The others have been nicked by bigger clubs, like Leicester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 y Williamson Colo MYM Debuchy Anita Santon Sissoko HBA LDJ Remy Hard on Gouff, don't rate Tiote From the bleacher report... "3-3-1-3 When manager of Chile, he usually utilised an incredibly demanding, physically draining 3-3-1-3 that requires the most immense sense of versatility. To think he used it with a national team who barely get the chance to play together on a regular basis is astounding, and the player roles delegated are tough to carry out. His philosophy of using attack-minded defenders shone through here, as he deployed defensive midfielders on the outside of one true central player to shuttle up and down the pitch. Later on, we'd see Martinez deployed in the same fashion for Bilbao. The second line of three contained something almost akin to a narrow full-back on either side, and even then he still employed two wingers higher up the pitch." Not sure I get this... Which is kinda why I asked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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