et tu brute Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, nbthree3 said: I know Everton fans are using Rafa's "poor" performance in China as an argument not to appoint him. It's interesting that https://footystats.org/china/chinese-super-league/xg for the 2020 season (Rafa's full season) says Dalian had the 2nd best xG (rising from 1.36 to 1.65 per match) in the division, out of 16 teams. The actual output got worse, but from what I can tell the underlying stats got better? xGA fell from 1.54 in 2019 to 1.27 in 2020 too. The average squad age in 2019 was 28.8 which was the 2nd highest in the division. In 2020, that fell to 27.3 which was the lowest in the Super League. Even if according to points per match Dalian slipped from 9th (1.27) in 2019 to 13th (0.79) in 2020, I think the data beneath it suggests an improvement hence the board being happy with the transformation over there thing is though we obviously are looking through NUFC spectacles. If you look at it from Everton supporters perspective they will firstly (and are) not forgetting him calling them a small club (I would not be happy either if a prospective manager had called us the same), then they will look at his recent management history Real Madrid, NUFC and China and say his best days are over. We know the full story of his time here and the fact that through the owner having no interest in moving the club forward, nearly every signing he brought into the club was way down his actual target list. The Everton fans won’t consider that (no fucker does outside of Newcastle), they will just say a shit manager like Bruce is doing a similar job. I’m not having a go at Rafa before anyone chirps in, I’m just saying I can understand from an Everton fans point of view why they would not want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Yeah definitely, still an interesting observation anyway. If I had access to actual databases I could look further into how things were Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) They'll still all be better prepared and get business concluded quicker than us, for all this f*ckwittery. There's f*ckwittery and there's not trying. Edited June 25, 2021 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I thought Lampard to Palace was nailed on, Everton should go for Dyche and Spurs need probably Graham Jones with a quality coaching set up so Levy can have his dream of buying and selling all the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Steve Cooper to Fulham is what we are expecting this weekend once Parker to Bournemouth is confirmed. Most Swansea fans are not too concerned and w=quite like the idea of someone new. Although Fulham are apparently balking now at the 3.5 million compensation that they've known about since the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 What's the hold up with Rafa to Everton if it's so nailed on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 15 hours ago, Ketsbaia said: Bit of a dick move from Favre but glad because Palace would be overachieving. Mad how these clubs are still searching. They're all just desperate for Brucie....they just don't know it yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The latest on Rafa came this morning on Talksport. https://talksport.com/football/901743/rafael-benitez-close-next-everton-manager-job-fan-backlash-liverpool/ It is believed Toffees owner Farhad Moshiri was taking time to measure the response from supporters, after an angry backlash following their approach for the ex-Liverpool chief. X-rated banners have appeared outside Everton’s home ground, with one of the more polite messages to the ex-Reds boss reading: ‘Benitez not welcome’. Everton’s approach for the Benitez has also split opinion with pundits, with accusations the former Chelsea, Real Madrid and Newcastle United boss uses clubs as ‘stepping stones’ to get bigger jobs. And it is now understood Moshiri has decided to push ahead with the deal following extended talks with the Spaniard. However, it appears not everyone at the club is in agreement over the pursuit for Benitez. Other members of the Everton board are understood to be ‘concerned’ by the approach, especially following the angry response from supporters with volatile banners directed at the ex-Liverpool manager being erected on the gates of Goodison Park. They claim it could happen before the end of the weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I do wish Talksport separated themselves from idiocy such as this though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 #BruceforSpursPalaceEverton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 You have to admit using Liverpool, Chelsea and Real Madrid as stepping stones to get the job here, in China and possibly Everton is quite shitty from Rafa tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Defacing the stadium now - at least keep it to banners that can be taken down at ease! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Someone needs to spray "I want to" above that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I honestly can’t believe he’s going there - absolute hiding to nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Is it a minority of wankers bullshitting and carrying on about Rafa or are they all against him like we are with Bacon? If it's the latter they're my new favourite club to hate, fucking idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Maybe it's the Liverpool connection, maybe it's the claims he's past it. Maybe it's even the 'Bruce has done better' card or the 'failed in China' one which is obviously a lie to the informed. I don't think it's a minority or for one certain reason and he'll be given dog's abuse from the second it's announced. Interesting when we play them and Liverpool have their Merseyside derby, what will the reception be like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 When he gets them a draw away at Anfield, they’ll soon come around! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 hours ago, nbthree3 said: Maybe it's the Liverpool connection, maybe it's the claims he's past it. Maybe it's even the 'Bruce has done better' card or the 'failed in China' one which is obviously a lie to the informed. I don't think it's a minority or for one certain reason and he'll be given dog's abuse from the second it's announced. Interesting when we play them and Liverpool have their Merseyside derby, what will the reception be like? It's that he called them a small club once. That's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dinho lad Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 fucking hell. Awful timing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, Dinho lad said: fucking hell. Awful timing. Takes the pressure off a bit going into the biggest match of his managerial career to date, tbf. Better than: MAKE OR Break, THIS, GARETH, DON'T FUCK IT UP. OR ELSE. Hopefully the most sensible decisions will be made whatever happens in the coming days, regardless of any quotes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Aye, best not wait to see if he actually succeeds with the finest depth of talent in generations before offering him a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 13 hours ago, nbthree3 said: Defacing the stadium now - at least keep it to banners that can be taken down at ease! Few comments on there saying it will be Liverpool fans doing this. Now where have we seen this refusal to look inwards on their fellow supporters before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Sima said: Few comments on there saying it will be Liverpool fans doing this. Now where have we seen this refusal to look inwards on their fellow supporters before? Scouse Mackems living up to their well deserved nickname. I know that we are shite but I’m so glad we don’t have the same bitter, embarrassing mindset as the Mackems and their Scouse cousins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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