Geogaddi Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I think West Ham fans seem to think they should be playing some form of entertaining football , I don't even like Moyes but its bizarre really the way West Ham fans go on about him, they have won a European trophy and competed in and amongst the top 6 under Moyes, that is literally West Ham's ceiling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 They won the European trophy they were favourites for. They have far more resources than the teams they were competing against. West Ham are like the 20th richest club in the world and comfortably in the top 8 or 9 in England. They are doing well... but not that well when you look at everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) He's done well there but the resources and money spent, they're probably looking at Villa and Spurs (even us) and thinking that could be us with a better manager. Edited February 22 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: He's done well there but the resources and money spent, they're probably looking at Villa and Spurs (even is) and thinking that could be us with a better manager. West Ham is in the upgraded model of boat that Palace are. Barely competent owners rising with the PL tides. They had no idea what to do in the summer but managed to land good players. They only got Moyes because they had no idea who to hire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: They won the European trophy they were favourites for. They have far more resources than the teams they were competing against. West Ham are like the 20th richest club in the world and comfortably in the top 8 or 9 in England. They are doing well... but not that well when you look at everything. And we are the richest club in the world. We just can't spend it. Also currently 1 point above West Ham. And then, as always, there is Chelsea... Edited February 22 by Joe1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 54 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: And we are the richest club in the world. We just can't spend it. Also currently 1 point above West Ham. And then, as always, there is Chelsea... West Ham are top 20 by revenue. And above us (until perhaps recently). European football, good gates numbers, good gate prices, PL money etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Tbf with West Ham it might well be the 0 wins in 8 games (all of 2024). Batterings by Man Utd and Arsenal, draws at H to Bournemouth and away to Sheff Utd and knocked out the cup by Bristol City. He's done well there, but the tide might be turning. Im sure its not all West Ham fans, but when its the majority of fans wanting a manager out they're almost never wrong as we well know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 It's bit kettle and cup to criticise west hams fan for wanting him out when our fans were complaining about how opposition fans didn't see what our problem with Bruce was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: It's bit kettle and cup to criticise west hams fan for wanting him out when our fans were complaining about how opposition fans didn't see what our problem with Bruce was. Aye there is that but Bruce didn’t win us a European trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I have seen other fans criticise West Ham on twitter for wanting him out purely based on league position and the fact they won a cup last season. My answer to them is the same as my answer to the ones criticising us, you can't comment on a team you don't watch week in, week out and a glance at the table tells you nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I thought Moyes should've went last summer tbf. This was the perfect summer for those midtable teams to take a risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) They should be all over Potter. Think he'd be capable of doing to them what Howe's doing here. Edited February 22 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 35 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: It's bit kettle and cup to criticise west hams fan for wanting him out when our fans were complaining about how opposition fans didn't see what our problem with Bruce was. A bit what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: They should be all over Potter. Think he'd be capable of doing to them what Howe's doing here. Too slow and boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 hours ago, Geogaddi said: I think West Ham fans seem to think they should be playing some form of entertaining football , I don't even like Moyes but its bizarre really the way West Ham fans go on about him, they have won a European trophy and competed in and amongst the top 6 under Moyes, that is literally West Ham's ceiling. West Ham did traditionally have this idea that they were a footballing team when I was growing up so managers like Allardyce and to some extent, Moyes were never going to catch the imagination of all the fans. Personally I don't like the football produced by either, trophy or not, so I can relate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Moyes has a good stranglehold on them after saving them from relegation twice, and making them a top 10 team. I can sympathise with the fans that want them to have a go at becoming better and watching more entertaining football, especially considering some of the decent technial players they have rather than seeing Moyes replace Soucek with McTominay and Aguerd with Maguire in the summer with the following status quo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I think West Ham is a very complicated situation which goes beyond the manager. Moyes is doing alright in terms of results, but they've got owners who have alienated the fanbase since taking over, they've moved them to without a doubt the worst 'new' stadium in English football, an atmosphere killer but lots of seats so hey-ho, and the manager is one of the last of a dinosaur breed who play pretty austere football. I'd be absolutely distraught if our owners ever moved us somewhere like the London Stadium just because it had more seats. When Gold, Sullivan and Brady ran Birmingham City they constantly went on at the council about building them a new stadium (despite lack of interest from anybody at all in attending games at their current stadium), it was a fucking obsession. It must have been their life's ambition to get given that stadium at West Ham. Only, it's a fucking horrific venue, but they don't care, because hey, the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jow Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Think they have every right to want him gone. Other than winning a competition which they were favourites for, beating European giants like AEK Larnaca and Silkeborg IF along the way. Any manager who hasn’t won a game in 2024 is likely to be under pressure. Especially when that includes a 6-0 drubbing at home and games against Bristol City, Sheff United, Bournemouth and Forest. His football is also dire as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 22/02/2024 at 21:26, brummie said: I think West Ham is a very complicated situation which goes beyond the manager. Moyes is doing alright in terms of results, but they've got owners who have alienated the fanbase since taking over, they've moved them to without a doubt the worst 'new' stadium in English football, an atmosphere killer but lots of seats so hey-ho, and the manager is one of the last of a dinosaur breed who play pretty austere football. I'd be absolutely distraught if our owners ever moved us somewhere like the London Stadium just because it had more seats. When Gold, Sullivan and Brady ran Birmingham City they constantly went on at the council about building them a new stadium (despite lack of interest from anybody at all in attending games at their current stadium), it was a fucking obsession. It must have been their life's ambition to get given that stadium at West Ham. Only, it's a fucking horrific venue, but they don't care, because hey, the numbers. And the fucking cushty deal they got on the expense of the taxpayer. Wankers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Fair enough. He's not been great tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 'should' they part ways 'when' surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Already started looking at replacements should they part ways? What a bizarre way of wording things, like it’s some sort of passive event that could just happen without anyone making the decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Jose to return again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 What odds Mourinho as Caretaker Manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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