The College Dropout Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 His Chelsea tenure has ultimately allowed people to come to lazy conclusions about his ability. I don't think so. He's genuinely naive tactically. He's done enough in his career to suggest that isn't the case. Think it might be getting on top of him a bit in the premier league. But he really hasn't. Going undefeated in the league was a great achievement but the Portuguese especially in that season is pretty weak. He's made some of the same mistakes time & time again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Spurs won't finish above 4th while Levy is running them. Seems to me he's more bothered about balancing books than attracting players to the club. Like they did the season before AVB joined? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Spurs won't finish above 4th while Levy is running them. Seems to me he's more bothered about balancing books than attracting players to the club. Like they did the season before AVB joined? They didn't finish above fourth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Spurs won't finish above 4th while Levy is running them. Seems to me he's more bothered about balancing books than attracting players to the club. Like they did the season before AVB joined? They didn't finish above fourth. My bad. They really should have that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wonder if there should be some sort of transfer window for managers as well or whether January would just be a free for all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wonder if there should be some sort of transfer window for managers as well or whether January would just be a free for all. Personally think clubs should only be allowed to change manager in the summer. If you appoint a bad one then tough shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Would it make much difference to the league though? How often have mid-season managerial changes dramatically changed the fortunes of a team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Would it make much difference to the league though? How often have mid-season managerial changes dramatically changed the fortunes of a team? IMO the fabled 'new manager bounce' can often be the difference between being relegated and not for a number of teams. IE Mussolini last season when O-Nil was sure to take the Mackems down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Would it make much difference to the league though? How often have mid-season managerial changes dramatically changed the fortunes of a team? I'd say that probably happens quite often. Roeder, Robson and Keegan (twice) for us for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I'd expect in the majority of cases it doesn't change the eventual outcome though. Might be wrong like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 lots of stats show there is an APPARENT bounce after replacing the manager - for about 5 games what it really is that club fires the manager after a worse than average run - they then do better than average but the same thing would happen if he'd stayed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I see Hoddle has been linked with a return to Spurs. What the fuck did this guy do in a past life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Would it make much difference to the league though? How often have mid-season managerial changes dramatically changed the fortunes of a team? I'd say that probably happens quite often. Roeder, Robson and Keegan (twice) for us for a start. It would interesting to see what impact it had on the attitudes of players who stopped playing for a manager or actively tried to get one sacked mid-season. They'll basically have to suck it up and get on with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think AVB will have a great career on the continent when he gets past his ego and his "style" is more ideal for that certain league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Spurs won't finish above 4th while Levy is running them. Seems to me he's more bothered about balancing books than attracting players to the club. If that was the case, why did they spend every penny and then some from the Bale transfer? You can't say that someone is more interested in the finances when they've just spent over £100m in one summer They sold a player for £85m, even a pisahead could balance books with that onboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Would it make much difference to the league though? How often have mid-season managerial changes dramatically changed the fortunes of a team? Often, hence why it still happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think AVB is overrated, if anything. There's a reason Mourinho wants nothing to do with him. Makes it perfectly clear AVB was NEVER his assistant. I reckon he knows that AVB is going to be found out. That's rubbish imo. It's mourinho being a cunt as per usual to anyone who disowns him. Maybe. I have no inside knowledge. It's just a gut feeling. But it's well known the reason AVB left was because he wanted more responsibility. Jose had him working as a scout and refused to promote him. Then they had a falling out. The fact Mourinho didn't want to promote him speaks volumes to my ears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think AVB is overrated, if anything. There's a reason Mourinho wants nothing to do with him. Makes it perfectly clear AVB was NEVER his assistant. I reckon he knows that AVB is going to be found out. That's rubbish imo. It's mourinho being a cunt as per usual to anyone who disowns him. Maybe. I have no inside knowledge. It's just a gut feeling. But it's well known the reason AVB left was because he wanted more responsibility. Jose had him working as a scout and refused to promote him. Then they had a falling out. The fact Mourinho didn't want to promote him speaks volumes to my ears. or shows that Mourinho is a complete cunt since AVB has hardly been a complete disaster and utterly clueless since he became a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think AVB is overrated, if anything. There's a reason Mourinho wants nothing to do with him. Makes it perfectly clear AVB was NEVER his assistant. I reckon he knows that AVB is going to be found out. That's rubbish imo. It's mourinho being a c*** as per usual to anyone who disowns him. Maybe. I have no inside knowledge. It's just a gut feeling. But it's well known the reason AVB left was because he wanted more responsibility. Jose had him working as a scout and refused to promote him. Then they had a falling out. The fact Mourinho didn't want to promote him speaks volumes to my ears. or shows that Mourinho is a complete c*** since AVB has hardly been a complete disaster and utterly clueless since he became a manager. Have to agree with that. A pair of ridiculous ego's there, they were bound to clash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wildly overrated ginger ferret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I don't know how anybody can say with any confidence that AVB is a good manager. People say he is tactically astute. He is actually pretty awful tactically from what I've seen. He plays the same tactics every game, plays a high line with players unsuitable as with Chelsea and plays a high line against really fast attackers. If he was great tactically he could develop a tactic which would suit his players but he instead plays a style totally unsuited to his players. Bale single handedly won them loads of games last season to disguise his system's flaws Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Spurs won't finish above 4th while Levy is running them. Seems to me he's more bothered about balancing books than attracting players to the club. Finished 4th 2012. I don't think his ambitions are in question tbh, but more the setup has failed due to him buying the players rather than letting his manager manage the club. He loves making money, but more often than not it goes straight back in to the team, problem is this time it was spent by a party who wasn't the manager. Not sure when club in general will ever learn this lesson, it mostly doesn't fucking work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 He says above 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think AVB is overrated, if anything. There's a reason Mourinho wants nothing to do with him. Makes it perfectly clear AVB was NEVER his assistant. I reckon he knows that AVB is going to be found out. That's rubbish imo. It's mourinho being a cunt as per usual to anyone who disowns him. Maybe. I have no inside knowledge. It's just a gut feeling. But it's well known the reason AVB left was because he wanted more responsibility. Jose had him working as a scout and refused to promote him. Then they had a falling out. The fact Mourinho didn't want to promote him speaks volumes to my ears. or shows that Mourinho is a complete cunt since AVB has hardly been a complete disaster and utterly clueless since he became a manager. Maybe it was all ego. Who knows? All I know is Mourinho didn't promote him and, to me, AVB comes across as a chancer. He hasn't been a total disaster, no. But he has his UEFA licences. He's had his training to the point where he can manage professionally. But outside of that I can't see anything that separates him from the bloke on the street. I think he's very fortunate to be where he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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