jdckelly Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 honestly as an appointment to keep them up its a perfectly sensible one, not the most ambitious maybe but west ham and "ambitious" moves in general seem to fail miserably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Regardless of who the manager and club is, I believe that going back to a club never works (even though Mourinho won the league first season back with Chelsea, it wasn't quite the same and quickly turned to shit). David Moyes going back is another level of disaster waiting to happen. Fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Regardless of who the manager and club is, I believe that going back to a club never works (even though Mourinho won the league first season back with Chelsea, it wasn't quite the same and quickly turned to s***). David Moyes going back is another level of disaster waiting to happen. f***ing hell Second season back for Mourinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Regardless of who the manager and club is, I believe that going back to a club never works (even though Mourinho won the league first season back with Chelsea, it wasn't quite the same and quickly turned to s***). David Moyes going back is another level of disaster waiting to happen. f***ing hell Second season back for Mourinho. Ah, my mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 What on Earth about his first stint there had them convinced that he was worth another go? I can only seem to recall a fat handful of embarrassing defeats and at least one pitch invasion. They were well clear of the relegation zone but the upgrade to Pellegrini seemed an enormous one. Surely just another short term ship-steadying job while they identify someone who can actually fulfil their enormous potential? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 18 month deal as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 18 month deal as well Finishes when Rafa’s contract in China finishes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The reactions to the appointment Reminds me of us last summer = Hope gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Imagine appointing a shit former Sunderland manager. Fucking mugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Absolute Brucey levels of bizzare dinosaur appointments. Wtf are they playing at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Really surprised at how badly it's gone for him there. Seemed like a great appointment. Not all managers that have worked with elite clubs/players can adapt and overachiever with lower level clubs/players Villarreal and Malaga being absolute powerhouses before and after his arrival of course. Stick to turning people against Rafa though Aye, what complete shite He's probably past it but he was a very good manager at one point It was when Malaga had a huge cash injection from the middle east and was buying the likes of Van Nistelrooy. Not the first time Chequebook Pellegrini has had that luxury. He can’t even do it with a bucket load of money now. :lol: Was giggling reading this. Van Nistelrooy went there on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Really surprised at how badly it's gone for him there. Seemed like a great appointment. Not all managers that have worked with elite clubs/players can adapt and overachiever with lower level clubs/players Villarreal and Malaga being absolute powerhouses before and after his arrival of course. Stick to turning people against Rafa though Aye, what complete shite He's probably past it but he was a very good manager at one point It was when Malaga had a huge cash injection from the middle east and was buying the likes of Van Nistelrooy. Not the first time Chequebook Pellegrini has had that luxury. He can’t even do it with a bucket load of money now. :lol: Was giggling reading this. Van Nistelrooy went there on a free. I think you’ve missed the point he had a wealthy middle east owner behind him. Doubt Van Nistelrooy was on 5p wages either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Nah I haven't missed anything. Go look at income vs. expenditure. Pellegrini did a great job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Moyes was average at Everton and a total failure every where else since. How on earth these guys manage to stay on the management merry go round just amazes me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Moyes was good at Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Be class if West Ham gan doon like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Moyes was good at Everton Very good. I hate when a manager doesn't do well at a certain club that people then feel the need to discredit their past success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Now let me be clear about what I mean by this because I think this could be prettily easily construed as me suggesting that the owners are asset strippers or uninterested leeches, and I don't think that's really true. I believe that David Sullivan and David Gold would like West Ham to be successful, and I can even allow myself to be convinced that as supporters they feel the highs and lows just as we do. But their primary driver is simple; in summer 2021 the club can be sold without any of the proceeds needing to be repaid to the public purse. Assuming that West Ham are still a Premier League club at that point and that $500m valuation holds, then Sullivan and Gold will be free to sell up and bank the kind of profit that one does not usually see when you flog an asset based in a leased building, constructed to last a fortnight. So while I accept there is a nice spot in the Venn diagram where the things we want overlap with the owners, we can stop kidding ourselves about the wider dream. We aren't going to see £100m plans for training facilities or substantial investment in a new scouting and analytics set up, or a tonne of money being thrown at the women's team, because these things just cost money and depress the amount of the money the owners will trouser in a sale. You don't stick long term expenditure projects on a balance sheet when you're preparing to sell up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 At least they might actually sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Pellegrini did a fine job at Malaga regardless of what he had to spend. Taking Malaga to 4th in La Liga and being unlucky to not reach the semi finals of the Champions League is an outstanding achievement. If you are a good manager which Pellegrini at the time was then its more likely you will get the chance to manage bigger clubs with lots of money to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The porn brothers are also a lot closer to death than Ashley, sadly. They’ll sell up soon enough *Unless it’s passed on to that dickhead son, of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 So while I accept there is a nice spot in the Venn diagram where the things we want overlap with the owners, we can stop kidding ourselves about the wider dream. I like that line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 At least they might actually sell. [emoji23] I'd snap your hands off for a guarantee that the club will only be soulless for another two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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