Kanj Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Let's just boil this down for 1 second... He's been here for years, yet we don't have an actual playing style or formation, some players play well, others regress, our exciting signings are not being used to their potential, he slags fans and supporters off in the press, has an aura of arrogance about his style of management when he's been very fortunate for 1 or 2 players saving his skin in most of our wins, he defends the owner who's made a mockery of the fans, and justifies said owner with lowered expectations. We watch football for enjoyment, entertainment and love of the game - we don't watch it for balance sheets, boring, unimaginative football, and certainly don't have time in our lives to sit about on our hands quietly when our football club is being run by a man who hates us and a manager who doesn't excite us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Don't venture in here too often, but that's a good post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It's astounding that we don't have a style of play after all this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 was gonna post something in the response to the last couple of posts that wasn't anti-pardew, so decided against it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Just boring atm. Sunderland result summed it up, if he cannot inspire them to make a point in that game when can he? It says everything about his ability to improve us going forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It's astounding that we don't have a style of play after all this time. The Sherwood quote was the best. In his like 3rd game - a total rookie - he works Pardew out and spanks us for 4 said something like "just came here and kept the ball and they didn't really try and get it back... so we won loads". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 We do have a style of play. We look to nick a goal and then defend it. There is no plan if the opposition score first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The disappointment in Hoddle's voice over the weekend, going over the highlights. "There's no creativity ... it's like conference football", regarding the chance for Cisse, and then how Remy's goal came about. Wasn't impressed with the lead up to either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 He's spot on. Pardew should be embarrassed as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The disappointment in Hoddle's voice over the weekend, going over the highlights. "There's no creativity ... it's like conference football", regarding the chance for Cisse, and then how Remy's goal came about. Wasn't impressed with the lead up to either. I don't even particularly like Hoddle, but he sounded like a professor of the game compared to Pardew. Considering this is the football we are producing after nearly 4 years under Pardew's coaching is embarrassing. I've seen teams from two divisions lower who can do the basics of passing and moving better, even if the players are too low quality to make it count. Conference football is a good comparison tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 We do have a style of play. We look to nick a goal and then defend it. There is no plan if the opposition score first. That's more a gameplan than a style of play tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The best word I can use to describe our play is "clunky" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thing is, we've actually kept it on the floor and occasionally played some very nice stuff this season. The problem is since Cabaye left it's been "back to basics" as Pardew keeps calling it. Annoyingly the game after Cabaye left, Norwich. We played some good football despite not scoring. Ben Arfa was pulling the stings, Sammy was running at full backs and Remy was doing his thing playing on the shoulder and making space for himself. Next game was Sunderland as we all know, manager and players shit the bed and it all went tits up. Didn't help that he moved Ben Arfa to play off an abysmal Shola and we just pumped it long for the entire game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Ben Arfa off Shola How does anyone on Earth think that will work. When you know Ben Arfa wants to run with the ball in the final third, why would you play Shola upfront, who doesn't threaten in behind at all, and so the defence can just push up on, thereby restricting Ben Arfa's space. Why, why , why, why why?!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 That's a lot of exclamation points, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Marks. Exclamation marks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Marks. Exclamation marks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/9185522/The-Secret-Footballer-Dodgy-deals-rife Thought this was worth posting as there is a section on Ashley and Pardew by the Secret Footballer. "Back at home, Newcastle United are really struggling - despite the 1-0 home win over Aston Villa on Sunday. The loss of Yohan Cabaye was a big blow - but the £19million price was reasonable - and there are rumours that 10 more players could leave the club in the summer, many of them first-teamers. That will understandably have many Newcastle fans worried given the lack of investment by Mike Ashley in recent times. Sports Direct International, Ashley's discount sporting goods outlet, made a profit of £280.7million in the last quarter alone, and there are very few chairmen in the Premier League bringing in that kind of cash right now. But the big question is whether or not Ashley still feels like using some of it to bankroll the club? After all, he has invested heavily in Newcastle over the years and has received an awful lot of abuse in the process. A few years ago, when he was really taking a lot of flak for Newcastle's performances and general state of affairs, I happened to bump into Derek Llambias, who at that time was Newcastle's managing director, in a bar in Soho. I have to say that he was a really decent fella, and one thing that he said to me has stuck in my head: "Mike has invested over £200 million of his own money in Newcastle. I keep telling him that he's very unlikely to get it back but he's a fan. So what can you do?" He probably won't get the money back, but you have to be lucky in business, especially the business of football. For example, when Andy Carroll was a 19-year-old, Derby County bid £1million for him. Ashley wanted to sell but Dennis Wise, who was then tasked with reducing the wage bill at St James' Park, said "no". Wise was adamant that Carroll 'had something about him' and that for £1million the club should keep the player and let him develop on Tyneside. When Liverpool bought Carroll to replace Chelsea-bound Fernando Torres, Ashley sent a text to Wise. It read: "35 big ones. Cheers, Den." As for the manager, Alan Pardew, he seems to take the praise with ease when Newcastle win and finds a lot of excuses that point blame as far away from himself as possible during the tougher times. Chris Hughton's sacking at Newcastle came as a surprise to many but I was told that Pardew had been working on Ashley for months by hanging around the Ritz casino and gambling with him until they'd formed some sort of friendship. Suddenly, he's the Newcastle manager. He is an interesting character but not my favourite person." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Quite a few of Pardew's ex-players don't seem to like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Man, it seems MA is pretty easy to work then. Definitely believe that's what Pardew did, and I'm certain Joe Kinnear did the same sort of thing. Ma man, what a buffoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Quite a few of Pardew's ex-players don't seem to like him. Eh, not sure that's true. Had a look through a fair few ex players quotes and most were remarkably positive. Not that that means owt if the football is bollocks mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Man, it seems MA is pretty easy to work then. Definitely believe that's what Pardew did, and I'm certain Joe Kinnear did the same sort of thing. Ma man, what a buffoon. You would think if Ashley has been conned by Pardew he's rich enough to bite the bullet and sack him. Yes it would sting to line the fraud's pockets but sometimes you just have to put it down to experience and move on. I'm sure he's shafted enough people in his own time to understand you win some you lose some. So I don't really buy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Chris Hughton's sacking at Newcastle came as a surprise to many but I was told that Pardew had been working on Ashley for months by hanging around the Ritz casino and gambling with him until they'd formed some sort of friendship. Suddenly, he's the Newcastle manager. Gonna have to get myself down that casino with my shirt on and Football Manager resume in hand, maybe I too can get a cushty job at the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Sure this has been raised a zillion times, but has MA actually "Invested" anything? Giving an interest free loan (which the club will pay back) and investing are surely different? He has taken more than he has lent. End of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Quite a few of Pardew's ex-players don't seem to like him. Eh, not sure that's true. Had a look through a fair few ex players quotes and most were remarkably positive. Not that that means owt if the football is bollocks mind. I remember a few on the radio slating him when he first joined us. I imagine he's not popular with Jose Fonte either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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