Hanshithispantz Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I don't see the wisdom of blaming the failure that was last season 100% on lack of investment or 100% on Pardew or 100% on anything else for that matter. Far too many times I looked at our lineup last season and thought we should have far too much for the opposition on paper, then we got beat. That's the manager's responsibility, along with the coaching staff and the players. Near-relegation was obviously due to a combination of factors and it was obvious at the time, just as it is now, that the manager should take his share of the blame. Only now is that happening widely, 12 months later. People tend to focus on the things Pardew hasn't got as opposed to what he has. "We made a £45m profit" "Cabaye was sold" "He had injuries that year" "He was playing extra games as we were in Europe" "We never bought anyone in the summer" these things are true, and are a factor, but they still don't excuse the manager when he's getting absolutely thrashed week in week out with a team that half of the managers in the league would kill for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Comment on that Guardian article posted 2:12pm is the worst thing I've ever seen 2.26 is even better in reponse to that post.. 'I could not agree with you more' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Comment on that Guardian article posted 2:12pm is the worst thing I've ever seen How does these people exist? Surely employed by the dickhead himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Comment on that Guardian article posted 2:12pm is the worst thing I've ever seen 2.26 is even better in reponse to that post.. 'I could not agree with you more' Brett's turn reminds me of this lad I used to go to school with who was the biggest charver going and then just randomly rocked up one day with a Johnny Marr haircut and a love for punk rock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 If any players in Europe have been paying any attention, they'll have seen the destruction of certain international careers recently. Players like Krul, Anita, MYM, Santon, Ben Arfa were either close to, or in the international set-up, at some point in or just before their Newcastle career. Now they're all completely out in the cold right before a World Cup. That's going to make finding good talent in places like France much more difficult. Moving to the Premier League's meant to solidify your international career, not ruin it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I don't see the wisdom of blaming the failure that was last season 100% on lack of investment or 100% on Pardew or 100% on anything else for that matter. Far too many times I looked at our lineup last season and thought we should have far too much for the opposition on paper, then we got beat. That's the manager's responsibility, along with the coaching staff and the players. Near-relegation was obviously due to a combination of factors and it was obvious at the time, just as it is now, that the manager should take his share of the blame. Only now is that happening widely, 12 months later. Absolutely. I was trying to get across that whether we've finished top 5(11/12) or bottom 5 (12/13) or somewhere in between (13/14), the performances throughout have been standard Pardew, and ALWAYS offered diminishing returns. For better or worse, due to finishing 5th the year before and not having been backed in the summer, he got off light with criticism last year, Ashley took the brunt of criticism from most media and many of the more pragmatic (without any positive or negative connotation on that word) fans. Fair enough, I agree that injections of quality into the squad have generally led to us looking better but it's always short-lived, as you say. It's frustrating because we could have arguably built on something more concrete at the end of the season we finished 5th and going into the following season, i.e. the 433 formation/tactics/style of play we employed for a few games to great effect, but of course Pardew abandoned it to go back to 442 first chance he got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 http://oi60.tinypic.com/raxmqp.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Get in there. Top of the league! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 NETD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 That comment says jettison marveux cisse and Ben arfa and rely on pardew to sign 4 players. Dat solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Looking at some of the other stats man, Liverpool have scored 49 goals in 2014 and we've managed 9. That doesn't even seem like a gap mathematically possible between two teams in the same divison http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/2014-premier-league-would-newcastle-6990438?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Looking at some of the other stats man, Liverpool have scored 49 goals in 2014 and we've managed 9. That doesn't even seem like a gap mathematically possible between two teams in the same divison http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/2014-premier-league-would-newcastle-6990438?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter I know, in the same half of the league as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 That table is embarrassing. On par with Alan Smith-led MK Dons ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Imagine Alan Smith trying to explain to a team how to score a goal. "Then you cross it in, and you big man, you eh, you...ah I'm sure something comes next!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Imagine Alan Smith trying to explain to a team how to score a goal. "Then you cross it in, and you big man, you eh, you...ah I'm sure something comes next!" He'll tell the strikers to be facing back from goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Imagine Alan Smith trying to explain to a team how to score a goal. "Then you cross it in, and you big man, you eh, you...ah I'm sure something comes next!" He could always try calling Pards, "it's the process you haz to get right Smiffy. But you haz to be middle claarss edjucayted to understand wot the process is and 'ow to implement it". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 http://oi60.tinypic.com/raxmqp.jpg That's damning. Any table on defeats with 3 goals margin or more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Nice write up HF. You'll want to fix the spelling of 'indiscretion' if you're going to publish anywhere like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Nice write up HF. You'll want to fix the spelling of 'indiscretion' if you're going to publish anywhere like. cheers I'm off to complain to Microsoft about the failure of their spellcheck function. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 http://i61.tinypic.com/2z7jy3l.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TaylorJ_01 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 shazam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 http://oi60.tinypic.com/raxmqp.jpg Charlton in 4th - still recovering from being pardewed after all this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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