Alan '48 points' Pardew

[Wullie]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

[Guest The_Optimistic]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

Surely we can't sack our manager because he's lost the last 3 derbies.  This is becoming pathetic.

[Guest reefatoon]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

Surely we can't sack our manager because he's lost the last 3 derbies.  This is becoming pathetic.

 

He should have been sacked after the first one, never mind the third one.

[Spudil]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

Surely we can't sack our manager because he's lost the last 3 derbies.  This is becoming pathetic.

 

Why in the fuck can't you?

 

Of course we should

[Hanshithispantz]

Who is asking to match top 4?

go back a page or 2.

It was an off the cuff comment, but if our team had been managed by Klopp and his team the past 3 and a half seasons instead of "Hatem's stats weren't right" Pardew I don't think its that much of a stretch for us to be challenging with the top 4.

[Guest bimpy474]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

Surely we can't sack our manager because he's lost the last 3 derbies.  This is becoming pathetic.

 

No we sack him for being a liar, a stinking piece of bullshit. For being a manager who's team has NEVER come from behind to win when losing at half time, over 3 years and counting. We sack him for giving us some of the worst run of results ever, for being utterly bereft of passion and leadership in Derbies.

 

For constantly telling us we're no bigger than Wigan and Swansea and who can't compete financially with Southampton. For setting us up in games against lower league teams in cups so we can just survive and try to get to 70 mins. For giving us some of the worst football i've ever seen, yet tells us it's front foot exciting stuff. The Constant shit he spews out, and now we have the ridiculous touchline embarrassments.

 

The shit far outweighs the good, and that is why he should be sacked. he's a cunt of a man, a man without shame, without pride who deserves nothing from us other than our contempt.

[Interpolic]

Can't believe you think we could get Klopp, Hans.

[Wullie]

If your team is regularly not just losing but getting absolutely smashed at home off a team that is consistently in the bottom five or six, it's a fair bet that you've not got the right man in charge anyway. The fact that it's them just exacerbates the issue.

 

Anyone who wants him in charge for the next derby obviously doesn't work with any of the horrible bastards.

[DJ_NUFC]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

Surely we can't sack our manager because he's lost the last 3 derbies.  This is becoming pathetic.

 

No we sack him for being a liar, a stinking piece of bullshit. For being a manager who's team has NEVER come from behind to win when losing at half time, over 3 years and counting. We sack him for giving us some of the worst run of results ever, for being utterly bereft of passion and leadership in Derbies.

 

For constantly telling us we're no bigger than Wigan and Swansea and who can't compete financially with Southampton. For setting us up in games against lower league teams in cups so we can just survive and try to get to 70 mins. For giving us some of the worst football i've ever seen, yet tells us it's front foot exciting stuff. The Constant shit he spews out, and now we have the ridiculous touchline embarrassments.

 

The shit far outweighs the good, and that is why he should be sacked. he's a cunt of a man, a man without shame, without pride who deserves nothing from us other than our contempt.

 

Phew, this made my morning.

 

Off to get a coffee.

[Wallsendmag]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

Surely we can't sack our manager because he's lost the last 3 derbies.  This is becoming pathetic.

 

Of course we can. We can't win the league (fair enough) and don't want to win a cup or qualify for Europe under the current regime so as not to put our ultimate goal of mid table mediocrity under threat. As supporters, the Derby and local bragging rights is sadly all we have left to get remotely hyped up about nowadays and the last 3 have produced total non performances, 2 of them resulting in heavy defeats.

[colinmk]

Aye, well said Bimpy.

[Guest neesy111]

Hope I never get into bimpy's bad books.

[Hanshithispantz]

Can't believe you think we could get Klopp, Hans.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Bimpy's off on a Falling Down style rampage now, and it's all Pardew's fault.

[Guest bimpy474]

Bimpy's off on a Falling Down style rampage now, and it's all Pardew's fault.

 

No while you want to stab him with your willy, i want to do it with a axe to the forehead.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Bimpy's off on a Falling Down style rampage now, and it's all Pardew's fault.

 

No while you want to stab him with your willy, i want to do it with a axe to the forehead.

 

Your psychiatrist would tell you those things are more closely related than you realise.

[DJ_NUFC]

Bimpy's off on a Falling Down style rampage now, and it's all Pardew's fault.

 

No while you want to stab him with your willy, i want to do it with a axe to the forehead.

 

Your psychiatrist would tell you those things are more closely related than you realise.

 

[Guest bimpy474]

Bimpy's off on a Falling Down style rampage now, and it's all Pardew's fault.

 

No while you want to stab him with your willy, i want to do it with a axe to the forehead.

 

Your psychiatrist would tell you those things are more closely related than you realise.

 

Ah my Mum 

[loki679]

Keith Barrett has been posting his e-mails with the Hull Chief Inspector on Facebook - some very valid points indeed;

 

 

 

I have today e mailed Chief Inspector Richie Kirven of Humberside Police asking him a simple question. I see no reason to keep it private so here is a copy for ...any football fans that may be interested .

 

Dear Chief Inspector Kirven,

 

I note with great interest that you as Chief Inspector for Humberside Police have decided to take no further action against Mr. Alan Pardew, manager of Newcastle United Football Club after he head butted a Hull City player in the KC Stadium Kingston Upon Hull on Saturday 1st March 2014. An incident shown and witnessed by millions on television.

 

I was involved in an incident myself at the KC Stadium on 3rd January 2009 which resulted in a 3 year banning order from all football stadiums in Great Britain, and a £1500 fine, I still have the video evidence of the incident as I am sure you do, I think most witness's would agree there is no difference in the level of violence used in both incidents.

 

I appeared twice at Hull Magistrstes Court and I funded my own appeal at Hull Crown Court, I remember very clearly how this point was made to me by the magistrate, '

Mr.Barrett, you must remember where this act of violence took place, inside a football stadium, anyone, (anyone, Chief Inspector) who commits an act of violence at the KC Stadium will be punished by an automatic 3 year banning order, we will not tolerate this kind of behaviour in the City of Hull'

 

I quote below the Government statute for issuing football banning orders,

 

'Civil' Football Banning Orders - s. 14 B - on Complaint

 

From the 6th April 2007 prosecutors are able to apply for a 'civil' football banning order. The court must make an order if satisfied that the respondent has at any time caused or contributed to any violence or disorder in the UK or elsewhere and that there are reasonable grounds to believe that it would help to prevent violence or disorder at or in connection with any regulated football matches.

 

For s.14 (A) and (B), "violence" means violence against persons or property and includes threatening violence and doing anything which endangers the life of any person.

 

Also, disorder includes:

 

stirring up hatred against a group of persons defined by reference to colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins, or against an individual as a member of such a group,

using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour,

displaying any writing or other thing which is threatening, abusive or insulting.

Most importantly, the terms "violence" and "disorder" are not limited to violence or disorder in connection with football.

 

The courts are given a wide discretion of what to take into account in making a s. 14B Football Banning Order; this includes decisions of foreign courts, evidence of deportation back to the UK, removal from football matches wherever this occurred and conduct recorded visually - e.g. CCTV.

 

The court can look at the conduct of the responded for up to ten years before the application for the making of an order.

 

If one is unable to proceed to a conviction for a (football) relevant offence in all circumstances, it may still be possible to apply for an order under s.14 (B). Prosecutors should discuss this with police officers prior to the hearing.

 

I think the first paragraph is extremely relevant in Mr. Pardew's case considering his track record for violent incidents inside football stadiums.

 

So, In summary Chief Inspector, I was wondering if you could answer this simple question,

Why are you not prosecuting Mr. Pardew for his act of violence at the KC Stadium ?

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Keith Barrett

 

 

 

For those interested, Chief Inspector Kirven had replied to my e mail...

 

Keith,

 

Thank you for your E mail, I don't know the circumstances of your banning order so I am unable to compare the two incidents to rationalize my decision making in this case.

 

From what you have outlined there are clear differences within the circumstances of each incident, the first being that Mr Pardew is a member of the playing staff and that you were at the football match as a supporter.

 

In the case of Mr Pardew there are other options for dealing with his behaviour other than through the criminal courts, this presumably wasn't the case for you, these options include his club and the Football Association.

 

I know that both have already taken action against Mr Pardew, the club giving Mr Pardew a significant fine and the FA charging him with an offence which I'm sure when sentenced will have significant implications on his ability to manage his team in the near future.

 

As part of my decision making I have discussed the option of a criminal investigation with both the Football Association and Hull City Football club. Neither supported a criminal investigation and were content for the matter to be dealt with through the FA as they felt that this was both appropriate and proportionate.

 

Having looked at the full circumstances of this incident, I have to say am s in agreement with the other parties and believe that allowing the FA to sanction Mr Pardew is the proportionate way to deal with this regrettable incident.

 

regards

 

Rich Kirven

T/Superintendent Operations

Clough Road Police Station

Kingston upon Hull

 

 

 

Reply yesterday afternoon

 

 

 

 

I have replied to the Chief Inspector.

 

Chief Inspector Kirven,

 

Thank you for your prompt reply.

 

I appreciate that Mr. Pardew makes his living in a different way to me, I can not see what difference that makes.

 

I am not particularly looking for retribution against Mr.Pardew as an individual, the point I am making is that everyone should be treated and judged by the same criteria. In my case I made slight physical contact in a violent manner and so did Mr. Pardew, why should he be treated differently to me ?

 

Your own Hull magistrate, I do not have his name to hand, made a big point and specific statement in court that a violent act committed in the KC Stadium would automatically be punished by a three year banning order, as this sort of behaviour would not be tolerated in the City of Hull.

 

I do not feel my question has been fully answered. In fact I feel your reply has actually raised other questions.

 

Is an act of violence within a football stadium when committed by a member of club staff different to that committed by a football supporter ?

 

I have looked, and can not find that outlined in The Criminal Justice Act 1968.

 

You say there were different punishment options for Mr. Pardew compared to those available in my case, I would say the court could of doubled my fine and not issued the banning order, that would of been one option available, although it would contradict the magistrate who clearly stated that ANY act of violence would be punished by a three year banning order .

 

So Chief Inspector can we assume that the next football supporter who is involved in a passionate, spur of the moment, violent altercation inside the KC Stadium will NOT be punished by a banning order ?

 

I would appreciate answers to those questions.

 

In short Chief Inspector your reply stinks of double standards.

 

I will leave you for the time being with this quote from Mahatma Gandhi

 

'There is a higher court than the court of justice, and that is the court of conscience. It supercedes all other courts'

 

Yours Sincerely

 

Keith Barrett

 

 

Another reply this morning

 

 

 

For football fans that are interested following on from the previous...

 

Chief Inspector Kirven

 

Having digested your reply and slept on it, I wondered if you might clarify one or two points for the benefit of football supporters in general.

I feel football supporters in this country should know what to expect if by chance, like me, they were to be provoked and goaded into an altercation inside the KC Stadium.

 

In your first paragraph of your email you state you do not know the circumstances of my case, I'm sure you have records of my case, you could look it up and familiarise yourself which might help you to reach a fairer decision on wether Mr. Pardew should be treated the same as any other human being committing a violent act inside the KC Stadium.

 

I have already addressed the point you raise in your second paragraph, I do not see the relevance of Mr. Pardew's occupation whilst committing a violent act, perhaps you could enlighten the general public as to which occupations are allowed to be violent inside the KC Stadium ?

 

In your third paragraph you state 'there are other options to deal with his behaviour' does it not clearly state in The Criminal Justice Act 1968

'If there are reasonable grounds to believe that making such an order would help to prevent violence or disorder at or in connection with any regulated football matches then the court MUST make such an order' ?

 

In Mr. Pardew's case with his previous record that paragraph of The Criminal Justice Act would be extremely relevant, so I ask why Mr. Pardew is not being prosecuted in the manner of any other human being ?

 

In your fourth paragraph you talk about punishment by the club and the Football Association, what is the relevance of this ?

I ask again, Why is Mr. Pardew not being prosecuted in the same manner as any one else committing the same offence inside the KC Stadium ?

 

In your fifth paragraph you state you have discussed the matter with The Football Association and Hull City Football Club and neither support a criminal investigation.

Why would that be Chief Inspector ? Why would someone not be prosecuted for committing a criminal act inside the KC Stadium and yet another person would be ? I can not see the difference, perhaps you could explain it ?

 

In your last paragraph you say you agree with this decision, why ?

Why would a man in your position, a Chief Inspector, agree to prosecuting one person and letting another person off Scott free for committing the same offence ? I think to most people that would seem unfair, discriminatory even.

 

I have shared our correspondence on social media Chief Inspector as I feel the general public and certainly football fans in this country should be made fully aware of what treatment they might expect when visiting The KC Stadium depending on what they do for a living.

 

Just be truthful Chief Inspector, that's all I ask, everyone can see what is going on here.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

Keith Barrett

 

 

I slide tackled the bloke selling peanuts and did his ankle.  I got 2 years for GBH, why doesn't every footballer get this.

 

giv footbarlers morons punishments!!1!!11!

[DJ_NUFC]

Keith Barrett has been posting his e-mails with the Hull Chief Inspector on Facebook - some very valid points indeed;

 

 

 

I have today e mailed Chief Inspector Richie Kirven of Humberside Police asking him a simple question. I see no reason to keep it private so here is a copy for ...any football fans that may be interested .

 

Dear Chief Inspector Kirven,

 

I note with great interest that you as Chief Inspector for Humberside Police have decided to take no further action against Mr. Alan Pardew, manager of Newcastle United Football Club after he head butted a Hull City player in the KC Stadium Kingston Upon Hull on Saturday 1st March 2014. An incident shown and witnessed by millions on television.

 

I was involved in an incident myself at the KC Stadium on 3rd January 2009 which resulted in a 3 year banning order from all football stadiums in Great Britain, and a £1500 fine, I still have the video evidence of the incident as I am sure you do, I think most witness's would agree there is no difference in the level of violence used in both incidents.

 

I appeared twice at Hull Magistrstes Court and I funded my own appeal at Hull Crown Court, I remember very clearly how this point was made to me by the magistrate, '

Mr.Barrett, you must remember where this act of violence took place, inside a football stadium, anyone, (anyone, Chief Inspector) who commits an act of violence at the KC Stadium will be punished by an automatic 3 year banning order, we will not tolerate this kind of behaviour in the City of Hull'

 

I quote below the Government statute for issuing football banning orders,

 

'Civil' Football Banning Orders - s. 14 B - on Complaint

 

From the 6th April 2007 prosecutors are able to apply for a 'civil' football banning order. The court must make an order if satisfied that the respondent has at any time caused or contributed to any violence or disorder in the UK or elsewhere and that there are reasonable grounds to believe that it would help to prevent violence or disorder at or in connection with any regulated football matches.

 

For s.14 (A) and (B), "violence" means violence against persons or property and includes threatening violence and doing anything which endangers the life of any person.

 

Also, disorder includes:

 

stirring up hatred against a group of persons defined by reference to colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins, or against an individual as a member of such a group,

using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour,

displaying any writing or other thing which is threatening, abusive or insulting.

Most importantly, the terms "violence" and "disorder" are not limited to violence or disorder in connection with football.

 

The courts are given a wide discretion of what to take into account in making a s. 14B Football Banning Order; this includes decisions of foreign courts, evidence of deportation back to the UK, removal from football matches wherever this occurred and conduct recorded visually - e.g. CCTV.

 

The court can look at the conduct of the responded for up to ten years before the application for the making of an order.

 

If one is unable to proceed to a conviction for a (football) relevant offence in all circumstances, it may still be possible to apply for an order under s.14 (B). Prosecutors should discuss this with police officers prior to the hearing.

 

I think the first paragraph is extremely relevant in Mr. Pardew's case considering his track record for violent incidents inside football stadiums.

 

So, In summary Chief Inspector, I was wondering if you could answer this simple question,

Why are you not prosecuting Mr. Pardew for his act of violence at the KC Stadium ?

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Keith Barrett

 

 

 

For those interested, Chief Inspector Kirven had replied to my e mail...

 

Keith,

 

Thank you for your E mail, I don't know the circumstances of your banning order so I am unable to compare the two incidents to rationalize my decision making in this case.

 

From what you have outlined there are clear differences within the circumstances of each incident, the first being that Mr Pardew is a member of the playing staff and that you were at the football match as a supporter.

 

In the case of Mr Pardew there are other options for dealing with his behaviour other than through the criminal courts, this presumably wasn't the case for you, these options include his club and the Football Association.

 

I know that both have already taken action against Mr Pardew, the club giving Mr Pardew a significant fine and the FA charging him with an offence which I'm sure when sentenced will have significant implications on his ability to manage his team in the near future.

 

As part of my decision making I have discussed the option of a criminal investigation with both the Football Association and Hull City Football club. Neither supported a criminal investigation and were content for the matter to be dealt with through the FA as they felt that this was both appropriate and proportionate.

 

Having looked at the full circumstances of this incident, I have to say am s in agreement with the other parties and believe that allowing the FA to sanction Mr Pardew is the proportionate way to deal with this regrettable incident.

 

regards

 

Rich Kirven

T/Superintendent Operations

Clough Road Police Station

Kingston upon Hull

 

 

 

Reply yesterday afternoon

 

 

 

 

I have replied to the Chief Inspector.

 

Chief Inspector Kirven,

 

Thank you for your prompt reply.

 

I appreciate that Mr. Pardew makes his living in a different way to me, I can not see what difference that makes.

 

I am not particularly looking for retribution against Mr.Pardew as an individual, the point I am making is that everyone should be treated and judged by the same criteria. In my case I made slight physical contact in a violent manner and so did Mr. Pardew, why should he be treated differently to me ?

 

Your own Hull magistrate, I do not have his name to hand, made a big point and specific statement in court that a violent act committed in the KC Stadium would automatically be punished by a three year banning order, as this sort of behaviour would not be tolerated in the City of Hull.

 

I do not feel my question has been fully answered. In fact I feel your reply has actually raised other questions.

 

Is an act of violence within a football stadium when committed by a member of club staff different to that committed by a football supporter ?

 

I have looked, and can not find that outlined in The Criminal Justice Act 1968.

 

You say there were different punishment options for Mr. Pardew compared to those available in my case, I would say the court could of doubled my fine and not issued the banning order, that would of been one option available, although it would contradict the magistrate who clearly stated that ANY act of violence would be punished by a three year banning order .

 

So Chief Inspector can we assume that the next football supporter who is involved in a passionate, spur of the moment, violent altercation inside the KC Stadium will NOT be punished by a banning order ?

 

I would appreciate answers to those questions.

 

In short Chief Inspector your reply stinks of double standards.

 

I will leave you for the time being with this quote from Mahatma Gandhi

 

'There is a higher court than the court of justice, and that is the court of conscience. It supercedes all other courts'

 

Yours Sincerely

 

Keith Barrett

 

 

Another reply this morning

 

 

 

For football fans that are interested following on from the previous...

 

Chief Inspector Kirven

 

Having digested your reply and slept on it, I wondered if you might clarify one or two points for the benefit of football supporters in general.

I feel football supporters in this country should know what to expect if by chance, like me, they were to be provoked and goaded into an altercation inside the KC Stadium.

 

In your first paragraph of your email you state you do not know the circumstances of my case, I'm sure you have records of my case, you could look it up and familiarise yourself which might help you to reach a fairer decision on wether Mr. Pardew should be treated the same as any other human being committing a violent act inside the KC Stadium.

 

I have already addressed the point you raise in your second paragraph, I do not see the relevance of Mr. Pardew's occupation whilst committing a violent act, perhaps you could enlighten the general public as to which occupations are allowed to be violent inside the KC Stadium ?

 

In your third paragraph you state 'there are other options to deal with his behaviour' does it not clearly state in The Criminal Justice Act 1968

'If there are reasonable grounds to believe that making such an order would help to prevent violence or disorder at or in connection with any regulated football matches then the court MUST make such an order' ?

 

In Mr. Pardew's case with his previous record that paragraph of The Criminal Justice Act would be extremely relevant, so I ask why Mr. Pardew is not being prosecuted in the manner of any other human being ?

 

In your fourth paragraph you talk about punishment by the club and the Football Association, what is the relevance of this ?

I ask again, Why is Mr. Pardew not being prosecuted in the same manner as any one else committing the same offence inside the KC Stadium ?

 

In your fifth paragraph you state you have discussed the matter with The Football Association and Hull City Football Club and neither support a criminal investigation.

Why would that be Chief Inspector ? Why would someone not be prosecuted for committing a criminal act inside the KC Stadium and yet another person would be ? I can not see the difference, perhaps you could explain it ?

 

In your last paragraph you say you agree with this decision, why ?

Why would a man in your position, a Chief Inspector, agree to prosecuting one person and letting another person off Scott free for committing the same offence ? I think to most people that would seem unfair, discriminatory even.

 

I have shared our correspondence on social media Chief Inspector as I feel the general public and certainly football fans in this country should be made fully aware of what treatment they might expect when visiting The KC Stadium depending on what they do for a living.

 

Just be truthful Chief Inspector, that's all I ask, everyone can see what is going on here.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

Keith Barrett

 

 

I slide tackled the bloke selling peanuts and did his ankle.  I got 2 years for GBH, why doesn't every footballer get this.

 

giv footbarlers morons punishments!!1!!11!

 

That's an interesting read, actually.

[Guest reefatoon]

It is, but watch the poor bastard get a £100,000 fine now to bring him in line with Pardew.

[DJ_NUFC]

It is, but watch the poor bastard get a £100,000 fine now to bring him in line with Pardew.

 

Fair point.

[TRon]

Ignoring the football itself (which is admittedly much improved from the utter s**** served up last season), and all the embarrassing bollocks he says and does, considering the zero investment in the squad and the complete lack of ambition above him I'd probably say on balance he's done a reasonable job to date. The 5th season was evidently him overachieving, last season was him massively underperforming. This season seems to be about average. His cup and derby records are shameful but it's obvious nobody at the club cares about those.

 

Despite this I still think we could do better, and should always be looking to improve. I do believe these players are capable of more and adding to them could take us further still.

 

Unfortunately not everyone agrees, including the f***ing dickhead making the decisions.

 

 

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner.  I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club.

 

Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

Surely we can't sack our manager because he's lost the last 3 derbies.  This is becoming pathetic.

 

I think the point Wullie was making is that given an equal amount of investment over the next couple of years, Sunderland will continue to pound our arses assuming they can stay in the division. They have made the change necessary by appointing a manager who will outwit Pardew every time, and that is born out by cold solid fact. If they can match up their player recruitment to their improved coaching they should be on an upward curve. They have direction, we are going to be balancing the books first, then anything else will be a bonus.

[Belfast Boy]

Its a shame that last paragraph where he tells the CI that he is posting the replies online. That will obviously curb his next reply if he makes one. You could almost feel the CI squirming in his seat as he read it.

[Hanshithispantz]

It's a load of bollocks like but he makes a good argument out of it.