Guest bimpy474 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Possession football doesn't have to be the fucking Tika Taka Kitty Kat shit, sick of hearing that term. You can keep the ball without being Barcelona like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Man United was still the best performance for me. Man United were average and we beat them with possession football. Palace were just really, really s***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Could Mick go through the 20 teams in the division and tell me the defined styles of play? I'm sure he could teach me a thing or two and I'm all ears. Whether I could or not, I'm not going to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 500/1 for the title on BetFred like. Might be worth a quid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 If you don't mind wasting a quid, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Got the feeling he really pressed home how much he wanted to dominate and own the game, see he wanted to show them how well he is doing now. Shame he can't seem to press home hiw fucking important Derby day wins are. EDIT: Due ti stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 He never managed Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I bet he's, glad all over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Got the feeling he really pressed home how much he wanted to dominate and own the game, see he is still hurting at losing his job there. Shame he can't seem to press home hiw fucking important Derby day wins are. Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 He never managed Palace. Doh ffs aye was a player... been a long fkn day in Toon shopping. He wanted to show how well he has done. Made a lot in all interviews about returning there and doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Your credibility is shot now Skirge, I'm gutted. Nah, I know what you meant - he definitely seemed to place a lot of importance on this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Your credibility is shot now Skirge, I'm gutted. Nah, I know what you meant - he definitely seemed to place a lot of importance on this game. Aye was Southampton who he wanted to beat due to the sacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 There's little to complain about at the moment, which makes the relentless anti Pardew bile more wearisome than ever to read. this shit is utterly baffling, i've not seen anyone failing to praise the guy for turning it around since sunderland (other than discuss the context of how we achieved certain victories like chelsea, or spurs)...he's getting the praise, yet any post that has anything other than fawning adoration is labelled anti-pardew bile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Could Mick go through the 20 teams in the division and tell me the defined styles of play? I'm sure he could teach me a thing or two and I'm all ears. Whether I could or not, I'm not going to. Basically, he couldn't. Not every manager has a style of play or blueprint. A lot of managers will set up his side in a way they think will be best to beat the opposition, others will pretty much stick to what they know each game and may vary it slightly. The whole we don't have defined style of play under Pardew is a load of shit to be honest. Many managers don’t, what’s Jose’s defined style? He changes it up a lot but he wins matches in whatever way he can. Fans are basically criticising Pardew as he doesn’t play the way they think we should play. They want us to just play attacking possession football in which the likes of Martinez/Rodgers/Laudrup strive towards too. End of the day we don’t have that type of manager and I guess that’s why a lot still want him sacked and a foreign manager with this type of philosophy brought in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Could Mick go through the 20 teams in the division and tell me the defined styles of play? I'm sure he could teach me a thing or two and I'm all ears. Whether I could or not, I'm not going to. Basically, he couldn't. Not every manager has a style of play or blueprint. A lot of managers will set up his side in a way they think will be best to beat the opposition, others will pretty much stick to what they know each game and may vary it slightly. The whole we don't have defined style of play under Pardew is a load of s*** to be honest. Many managers don’t, what’s Jose’s defined style? He changes it up a lot but he wins matches in whatever way he can. Fans are basically criticising Pardew as he doesn’t play the way they think we should play. They want us to just play attacking possession football in which the likes of Martinez/Rodgers/Laudrup strive towards too. End of the day we don’t have that type of manager and I guess that’s why a lot still want him sacked and a foreign manager with this type of philosophy brought in. I would just like to see us go for teams a bit more tbh rather than worrying what they can do. Something we did against Palace to a degree but need more of that rather than hoping to not concede everytime and trying to shut up shop when 1 or 2 up, however he has done very well so far this season and appears to make correct decisions at times, in fact he has been making more attacking decisions recently bringing on players to attack rather than shut up shop. If he sustains what has happened so far and adds to it then nobody should have any complaints Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 There's little to complain about at the moment, which makes the relentless anti Pardew bile more wearisome than ever to read. 30 points is an excellent return, considering how little investment was made in the summer. Yeah he's got his flaws but overall he's doing a very decent job. Really looking forward to the next game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Basically, he couldn't. Not every manager has a style of play or blueprint. A lot of managers will set up his side in a way they think will be best to beat the opposition, others will pretty much stick to what they know each game and may vary it slightly. The whole we don't have defined style of play under Pardew is a load of s*** to be honest. Many managers don’t, what’s Jose’s defined style? He changes it up a lot but he wins matches in whatever way he can. Fans are basically criticising Pardew as he doesn’t play the way they think we should play. They want us to just play attacking possession football in which the likes of Martinez/Rodgers/Laudrup strive towards too. End of the day we don’t have that type of manager and I guess that’s why a lot still want him sacked and a foreign manager with this type of philosophy brought in. I would just like to see us go for teams a bit more tbh rather than worrying what they can do. Something we did against Palace to a degree but need more of that rather than hoping to not concede everytime and trying to shut up shop when 1 or 2 up, however he has done very well so far this season and appears to make correct decisions at times, in fact he has been making more attacking decisions recently bringing on players to attack rather than shut up shop. If he sustains what has happened so far and adds to it then nobody should have any complaints It's not worrying though, it's looking at a side, figuring out their strengths and weaknesses and then setting up a team in a manner you think could be best to take 3 points. If people's opinions are different to Pardew's then fair enough, doesn't make him wrong, it's just you'd like things done differently. Benitez/Mourinho to Wenger/Pep, all excellent managers but one side of them favour the sort of tactical approach to games other two prefer the attacking possession approach. Of course if I had a choice I’d prefer the second two options because it’s far more pleasant on the eye and the ‘right way’ to play football. However you can’t argue with results and if the first pairing get them with their methods like Pardew is doing then it’s fine by me. I’m not going to moan because he doesn’t play the same football as Martinez and want him to be someone he isn’t. Everything is going swimmingly and Pardew is doing an excellent job and long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thought Mourinho didn't have a defined style? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 He doesn't. He takes a tactical approach to games and differs his style of play depending on the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 He doesn't. He takes a tactical approach to games and differs his style of play depending on the opposition. in some games aye, in games where he thinks he can dominate he does, it's not 'his' style though, it's what he thinks gets best from what he's got, hence the difference in style between the duff,robben,drogba style and the later chelsea of the same era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 For instance tonight, you don't know what Jose will do. It's not like Arsenal against Man City where you knew Wenger was still going to attack them and look to take the possession from Man City. Jose would have been looking at Arsenal, not worrying about them but looking for a gameplan in which he feels he can stop Arsenal and take 3 points. What that maybe i don't know because like i said he doesn’t have a defined style of play in which he plays week in week out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I think you need to watch more football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 if tonight was against norwich and chelsea were in good form you know he'd try impose their play on them much more than adapting to the opposition. fwiw I can see us developing a bit of our own style, more so in away games, some of the possession stuff was there at villa and cardiff (a bit last season where we'd have the better of some games without creating much then lose it completely after going behind) and much more at man utd and palace but it doesn't happen overnight, butit seems to me like it's developing. it's a bit harder to play possession and patient at home when you are expected to force things a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 if tonight was against norwich and chelsea were in good form you know he'd try impose their play on them much more than adapting to the opposition. That's my point though, he will pick and choose his matches in which he thinks that will be best. At Madrid he pretty much attacked every team but soon as a 'difficult' game came along against top side he changed his style of play and tried to counter more and sit back. Even recent home games he went 4-3-3 against West Brom, didn't really work for them and got lucky, next home game against Southampton, he changes to 4-4-2 and it worked for them. There's nothing set in stone with Jose, he will take each game as they come and look to set up a way in which they can get a positive result. There isn’t a defined style in which you know he’s going to play every game like you know with some managers. And that's not a bad thing, it's just different approach to how many would like to see the game played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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