Big Geordie Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Beren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I've said it before, but the club has no intention of challenging for the top 6 as things stand. With sensible investment this window (and some luck), it's something we could break into - but I believe that Ashley will be happy enough for us to finish where we are. High enough to say we gave it a reasonable go, but also in no danger of qualifying for Europe. We'll know more about the ambition at the end of this month, as in who comes in but maybe's also - who is sold. Every single transfer window, people say this. We know what his 'ambition' for the club is. The mantra of "40 points" seeping out of the club through multiple sources as we careered beyond 30 points in December tells you everything you need to know about our objectives. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 He's a bit thick like, tells the media and in turn us that'll he rotate and make a few changes to freshen things up. He didn't rotate the team so they got tired, and now uses tiredness as the excuse for losing. Um...........not very bright is he really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bendewar Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 his substitutions are utter madness. against arsenal, chasing a goal, 10 minutes left, take off Sissoko for Haradia and play Santon in no position at all. He just wandered around the pitch utterly lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 He seems to forget that we're playing against other players that are also tired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 He peddled that tiredness excuse back in October. Despise the negative cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Well clear to see the tiredness excuse is to cover his own failings, especially when he makes a balls up of a game, yesterday as a case in point. Never know why he cant just show some humility and admit he got it wrong, he has in the past (very rarely). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Sovereign states. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Well clear to see the tiredness excuse is to cover his own failings, especially when he makes a balls up of a game, yesterday as a case in point. Never know why he cant just show some humility and admit he got it wrong, he has in the past (very rarely). He's too arrogant to admit that he got it wrong too often, he was still making excuses for last season only last week. He'll bullshit in the belief that if he does it often enough some people will fall for it and they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Well clear to see the tiredness excuse is to cover his own failings, especially when he makes a balls up of a game, yesterday as a case in point. Never know why he cant just show some humility and admit he got it wrong, he has in the past (very rarely). He's too arrogant to admit that he got it wrong too often, he was still making excuses for last season only last week. He'll bullshit in the belief that if he does it often enough some people will fall for it and they do. Maybe he believes it, someone with such an ego would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Compare that to this... http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/13-14/news/26134.html This made me smile. Paul English 188 Posted 25/11/2013 at 14:42:30 Roberto targets 70 points... Dreary Dave: "Let's get 40 points and see where we go from there."!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Compare that to this... http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/13-14/news/26134.html Just shows how a positive manager thinks. And they are doing it playing nice stuff. And we have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Have to say in his post match interview he said it is that time of year when teams pick up knocks and both teams looked a little jaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 He's a bit thick like, tells the media and in turn us that'll he rotate and make a few changes to freshen things up. He didn't rotate the team so they got tired, and now uses tiredness as the excuse for losing. Um...........not very bright is he really. Almost as if he wants to avoid a run that would take us into the European places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's just struck me how Pardew was lambasted for rolling out the tiredness excuse amidst squad rotation last year and is being lambasting for playing his first choice players without concern for tiredness this year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's just struck me how Pardew was lambasted for rolling out the tiredness excuse amidst squad rotation last year and is being lambasting for playing his first choice players without concern for tiredness this year It's not that difficult. he's getting lambasted because he's full of shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yeah that just makes him look a bit dim really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Compare that to this... http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/13-14/news/26134.html This made me smile. Paul English 188 Posted 25/11/2013 at 14:42:30 Roberto targets 70 points... Dreary Dave: "Let's get 40 points and see where we go from there."!!! Ian Tunstead 141 Posted 25/11/2013 at 11:57:11 I think Martinez is a young fresh-faced talented manager, full of ambition and enthusiasm with a lot of hope for the future. I bet he counts his lucky stars every night that he has been given another chance in the PL after being relegated with Wigan. But I think, after 10 years in the game, in the cold light of day after struggling with no money, when all his dreams have come crashing down when he finally accepts the reality of the situation, that money is king, we will see an aged Martinez, almost a reflection of the Moyes we have seen over the last few seasons. He will be broken like ever other manager who has had to fight against the odds against the farce that is the PL. Drew O'Neall 180 Posted 25/11/2013 at 14:33:10 All fans find a way to moan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's just struck me how Pardew was lambasted for rolling out the tiredness excuse amidst squad rotation last year and is being lambasting for playing his first choice players without concern for tiredness this year It's not that difficult. he's getting lambasted because he's full of shit That goes without saying. But from our point of view, as observers devoid of shit or any reason to spout it, tiredness is either a factor he could legitimately point to last year in excusing our poor christmas form (in which case he's a dick for not rotating when fit players are sat on the bench the past week) or tiredness isn't a factor for top flight machines of men, then or now (in which case we can't really slag him off for sticking with a team that were performing well, despite it making a mockery of his claims last year). I see it as the former myself, but then I agreed with him when he complained about tiredness this time last year too, so I'm not being inconsistent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's just struck me how Pardew was lambasted for rolling out the tiredness excuse amidst squad rotation last year and is being lambasting for playing his first choice players without concern for tiredness this year Just look at the players who are most visibly tired though. Gouffran and Sissoko IMO. We have two brilliant substitutes that could be played instead of these in Anita and Ben Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's just struck me how Pardew was lambasted for rolling out the tiredness excuse amidst squad rotation last year and is being lambasting for playing his first choice players without concern for tiredness this year Just look at the players who are most visibly tired though. Gouffran and Sissoko IMO. We have two brilliant substitutes that could be paired instead of these in Anita and Ben Arfa Aye The bellend wants to check his self innit blud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 That goes without saying. But from our point of view, as observers devoid of s*** or any reason to spout it, tiredness is either a factor he could legitimately point to last year in excusing our poor christmas form (in which case he's a dick for not rotating when fit players are sat on the bench the past week) or tiredness isn't a factor for top flight machines of men, then or now (in which case we can't really slag him off for sticking with a team that were performing well, despite it making a mockery of his claims last year). I see it as the former myself, but then I agreed with him when he complained about tiredness this time last year too, so I'm not being inconsistent This time last year he was blaming tiredness because of European football and we were using virtually 2 different teams. Our last European game before Christmas had us fielding Elliot, Tavernier, Williamson, Perch, Ferguson, Abeid, Bigirimana, Marveaux, Sammy Ameobi, Ranger and Shola. The following league game had us fielding Krul, Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Santon, Anita, Tiote, Gutierrez, Cisse, Ben Arfa and Ba which means 1 played in both games. How does that one work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I think it was mental tiredness in the end Mick. They had to think about playing so they were knackered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 That goes without saying. But from our point of view, as observers devoid of s*** or any reason to spout it, tiredness is either a factor he could legitimately point to last year in excusing our poor christmas form (in which case he's a dick for not rotating when fit players are sat on the bench the past week) or tiredness isn't a factor for top flight machines of men, then or now (in which case we can't really slag him off for sticking with a team that were performing well, despite it making a mockery of his claims last year). I see it as the former myself, but then I agreed with him when he complained about tiredness this time last year too, so I'm not being inconsistent This time last year he was blaming tiredness because of European football and we were using virtually 2 different teams. Our last European game before Christmas had us fielding Elliot, Tavernier, Williamson, Perch, Ferguson, Abeid, Bigirimana, Marveaux, Sammy Ameobi, Ranger and Shola. The following league game had us fielding Krul, Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Santon, Anita, Tiote, Gutierrez, Cisse, Ben Arfa and Ba which means 1 played in both games. How does that one work? I'm not following the question. If you reckon he had a dedicated European team then the league team should be no more or less tired now than they were back then. So the concern among posters about tiredness this week compared to the accusations of exuses ayear ago seem more to be about criticising the manager no matter what, rather than on a principal of believing tired players need rest and recuperation or their performances will suffer. Personally I don't think he did have 2 squads and the tiredness excuse was much more appropriate last year than it is now, though I do think some players could do with a rest right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm not following the question. If you reckon he had a dedicated European team then the league team should be no more or less tired now than they were back then. So the concern among posters about tiredness this week compared to the accusations of exuses ayear ago seem more to be about criticising the manager no matter what, rather than on a principal of believing tired players need rest and recuperation or their performances will suffer. Personally I don't think he did have 2 squads and the tiredness excuse was much more appropriate last year than it is now, though I do think some players could do with a rest right now. We did virtually play 2 squads and the manager did say we were tired because of Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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