Manchester United

[M1tche]

1 hour ago, Lenny said:

Bruno F is a brilliant player, still IMO, and Mainoo is clear of Longstaff and Miley but wouldn't be a guaranteed start over Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton. 

 

I think Onana would be a good keeper in an organised defence and could significantly improve our distribution from the back, so personally, I prefer him (or what he could be) over Pope. 

Can be brilliant, most of the time he's moaning and not doing an awful lot, he would have to replace our Bruno the way we are playing now, and that's even closer to being a conversation.  

 

No Mainoo isn't, have you watched him at all since his breakout few months? He has no pace, no positioning, and gives the ball away as much if not more than Longstaff. He offers nothing useful to our midfield. Even the Man U that back him to the hilt 6 months ago have had enough of how bad he's been.

 

Onana might be good with the ball at his feet, but he is a crap goalkeeper. Good goalkeeper 1st, ball player second is the only way to pick a GK. 

[Astroblack]

Honestly think Onana damages the integrity of the Premier League. Gibbs White's goal the other week should never happen in this league or any league for that matter. If he wants to do outfield things, he should be an outfield player. He's not a goalkeeper. 

[The College Dropout]

I liked Amad since Sunderland  days. 

[High Five o]

Amad would come straight in on RW for us. 
 

[Big Geordie]

9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I liked Amad since Sunderland  days. 

 

Lad has got a bit about him and seems like a good kid too.

[Joelinton7]

Didn’t take long

[KaKa]

My God   

[Dancing Brave]

2 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Didn’t take long

  "Clueless" 

[Pata]

3 hours ago, Cronky said:

I can't see things getting sorted out any time soon. They have a fan in charge of the football side, and he's made a bad choice of manager. I don't think they've got much money to spend, and they look a bad proposition for any player who is good enough to have other options.

 

Maybe he should get a bit more time before being labelled like this.

[Danh1]

Don’t worry, Sir Jim will be along soon to increase prices for the disabled and spit on the catering staff. 

[wormy]

Hey. Tbf we had multiple people saying we looked no different to Bruce after Eddie's first few games.

 

God if we don't succeed on Monday.. 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

 

 

 

[McDog]

Just now, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, Baghdad Bob. Haven't seen you in forever.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

2 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

 

Hey, Baghdad Bob. Haven't seen you in forever.

[McDog]

Just now, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

 

LOL, ignore the tanks in the background. Imperialist trick.

+1 rep for making me laugh so much. Have a great night.

 

[Displayname]

8 hours ago, KaKa said:

All the money in the world spent and so little to show for it.

 

It's just so immensely satisfying.

 

There's a deep rot that has set in at the club that will take some sorting.

 

They keep looking for individuals to throw under the bus, but it's so much more than that.

Exactly.

The players are shit, the fans are shit, the managers are shit, the owners are shit. Everything stinks there. It is such a bad athmosphere that it penetrates everything. Going to take a long time to fix.

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Displayname

[Jewel]

1 hour ago, Displayname said:

Exactly.

The players are shit, the fans are shit, the managers are shit, the owners are shit. Everything stinks there. It is such a bad athmosphere that it penetrates everything. Going to take a long time to fix.

 

 

 

Hopefully, it never gets fixed. I quite like the thought of Manc Utd being in a forever decline.

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, Jewel said:

Hopefully, it never gets fixed. I quite like the thought of Manc Utd being in a forever decline.

They will be fine fortunately for them football fans are very loyal and they've amassed a huge fan base which is the engine for the commercial revenues they have. 

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by r0cafella

[Displayname]

16 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

They will be fine fortunately for them football fans are very loyal and they've amassed a huge fan base which is the engine for the commercial revenues they have. 

 

 

 

How long are they going to tolerate them being so bad? Would guess they dont generate many new fans.

[r0cafella]

9 minutes ago, Displayname said:

How long are they going to tolerate them being so bad? Would guess they dont generate many new fans.

Indefinitely most people don't switch up. I'm in Singapore and Manchester United and Liverpool have lots of fans from the 80's for example. 

[CPL]

8 hours ago, M1tche said:

Can be brilliant, most of the time he's moaning and not doing an awful lot, he would have to replace our Bruno the way we are playing now, and that's even closer to being a conversation.  

 

No MainoNo Mainooo isn't, have you watched him at all since his breakout few months? He has no pace, no positioning, and gives the ball away as much if not more than Longstaff. He offers nothing useful to our midfield. Even the Man U that back him to the hilt 6 months ago have had enough of how bad he's been.

 

Onana might be good with the ball at his feet, but he is a crap goalkeeper. Good goalkeeper 1st, ball player second is the only way to pick a GK. 

Harsh on Mainoo. He is in a team derived of any confidence and balance. (Tonali a few weeks ago) The way he broke in the England squad during the Euros tells me that he is quality and has a higher ceiling than most young midfielders in the league at the minute. Plus he is probably knackered from all the games he has played whilst coming back from injury. Imagine him under Howe.

 

[Zero]

If we have funds we should make a sneaky 50m bid for Mainoo now. I could see him doing a Gordon again

[KaKa]

Can you imagine that it was over two years ago that Ragnick gave them the feedback below before being unceremoniously dumped and scape goated for how crap they were that season he was brought in to analyse the issues at the club before moving upstairs to support ETH. 

 

Eye opening reading the below report. He was absolutely spot on about everything.

 

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Ralf Rangnick will present incoming boss Erik ten Hag with a shocking dossier of shame on every first team Manchester United player.

 

After talks with Director of Football John Murtough and CEO Richard Arnold the interim Old Trafford chief has been asked to hand Ten Hag a brutal “no holes barred” rundown on the players the Dutchman will inherit this summer.

 

And Rangnick, 63, has told them he won’t hold back after believing he’s been let down and hung out to dry by a dressing room he’s privately branded “selfish, over-inflated, lacking quality and too powerful”. Senior sources inside United’s Carrington training ground say Rangnick has been staggered by the lack of professionalism amongst the first-team squad.

 

And he’s claimed some players have blatantly IGNORED his instructions when he’s given them a pattern of play to employ in certain games. Rangnick has also told Murtough and Arnold many of United’s players are “not fit for purpose” and physically cannot cope with high-energy opponents who run further, faster and harder. And that’s why he’s told Arnold the club needs a clear-out and an influx of hungry young players.

 

He’s also advised the hierarchy to ditch their habit of signing big-name players for a short-term fix. The highly respected German, who has managed Schalke, Hoffenheim and RB Leipzig, even told staff at the club he believes former star and Sky TV pundit Gary Neville is right in his assessment that United’s team is “broken”. Rangnick joined United as interim head coach last November and quickly insisted HE might be the long-term managerial answer the club were looking for

 

But in the space of less than five months Rangnick has seen at close quarters the mess United are in and is happy to hand the reins to Ten Hag who will leave Ajax next month. Rangnick’s murderous assessment of the current United squad will make bleak reading for 52-year-old Ten Hag. The German doesn’t rate defenders Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Eric Bailly, Phil Jones and is unsure about Victor Lindelof’s decisiveness and positioning.

 

He believes Harry Maguire has carried the can for a series of inept defensive displays by the team but feels United’s £80million investment is so substantial the club can’t simply write off the England centre-back. In midfield Rangnick has been shocked that United don’t have the energy and physicality needed in the modern game. And he believes it’s an area that needs urgent attention with at least two hard running, high-energy recruits needed plus a play-maker.

 

In attack Rangnick believes United have big problems despite Cristiano Ronaldo ’s 20 goals this season. He’s told Murtough signing players like Edinson Cavani at the end of their careers – after a failed experiment with 30 year old Shanghai Shenhua attacker Odion Ighalo in 2020 – is short-sighted and a sticking-plaster strategy that has no future.

 

He’s banking on Ten Hag getting more from Marcus Rashford and £72 million winger Jadon Sancho but believes United need a main striker with Anthony Martial, on-loan at Seville, unlikely to be the answer. The dossier will make grim reading for Ten Hag. But Rangnick, who will move upstairs in a consultancy role this summer, is adamant United must address their problems now – or face more years in the wilderness.

 

 

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by KaKa

[Froggy]

It was Ten Hag who didn't want to work with Rangnick as well, and upper management got rid of Rangnick because of that. The issues always start at the top.

 

Just don't get relegated please. Let Amorim do his thing and get rid of the ones who aren't up to it.

[David Edgar]

Ten Hag read the dossier and went out to buy Antony.