Froggy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, LionOfGosforth said: That's honest at least. I was chatting with someone the other day who made the argument that this is the worst Man Utd team, relative to net spend, in their history. I had said your 88/89 team was worse but that was with an ageing Brian Mclair up top and not a 70m forward. So in the end, I had to agree. Does Anorim get to the summer and a full backing? Easily the worst. £80m on Antony. £45m on Onana. Of course Amorim gets backing though. Despite all of this we still have a semi decent chance of Champions League football through the Europa League. The current favourites for it are Spurs. Nick that, a full pre-season and some fresh lambs and it can turn fairly quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: Not a chance they sack Amorim He'll be able to buy in the summer and next season is when he'll properly be judged That's the sensible path but you never know with Ratcliffe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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54 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, Froggy said: Despite all of this we still have a semi decent chance of Champions League football through the Europa League. The current favourites for it are Spurs. Naaahh, thats Bilbao at this point surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, 54 said: Naaahh, thats Bilbao at this point surely It shouldn't be Spurs like, but who knows in cups. I'm hoping we can have a go at winning it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Must base the prices on xG or summit? Edited January 19 by SteV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, Froggy said: Of course Amorim gets backing though. Despite all of this we still have a semi decent chance of Champions League football through the Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, thomas said: You're right you know. It's not like us to win cups when we're shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, Froggy said: Well the main problem, I think, is that we're pure shite. I thought the game was in the balance at half time. They scored early, you were then arguably the better side and got back into it. Didn’t feel like either side were dominant after that. Then the second half was woeful from your point of view. Let off for their second. Didn’t capitalise and then it was mostly them from that moment on. Not seen enough of you under Amorim. But you seem to struggle to get any sort of control or momentum for large spells when I do watch you. Just glimpses of what it could be. Mixed in with some horrendous defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, Froggy said: You're right you know. It's not like us to win cups when we're shite. not wrong but shite for man u is supposed to be be 8th place. y'all are five calcified layers of pre-cambrian turd below shite right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Froggy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I thought the game was in the balance at half time. They scored early, you were then arguably the better side and got back into it. Didn’t feel like either side were dominant after that. Then the second half was woeful from your point of view. Let off for their second. Didn’t capitalise and then it was mostly them from that moment on. Not seen enough of you under Amorim. But you seem to struggle to get any sort of control or momentum for large spells when I do watch you. Just glimpses of what it could be. Mixed in with some horrendous defending. If we're wanting to talk seriously this is it in a nutshell. We can be very dangerous, but it's never for sustained periods and there's always a mistake from someone or a terrible performance. It was Yoro against Southampton. It was Onana today. God I hate Onana sometimes. Like what the fuck was that today. Game was dead when that happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I know the if I am about to use is about to do some heavy lifting but still Under Amorim in the league if their matches ended on 80 minutes they would be 7 points worse off and behind Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Yeah it's early days and famous last words and all that but I actually think they already look noticeably worse than they did under Ten Hag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 19 minutes ago, thomas said: not wrong but shite for man u is supposed to be be 8th place. y'all are five calcified layers of pre-cambrian turd below shite right now Maybe 15 ago years that that's what shite meant. Edited January 19 by Froggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 47 minutes ago, Pilko said: Yoro looks shit. Yea, but they beat Real Madrid to him. By overpaying £50m and now stuck with him so got to use him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 9 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Yeah it's early days and famous last words and all that but I actually think they already look noticeably worse than they did under Ten Hag. Would be hard to disagree with to be honest. It feels like Amorim still has no clue what his best eleven is. Yoro was moved to LCB today. De Ligt moved to RCB. Dalot kept on the left despite us knowing Mitoma's pace would be an issue. Will probably start Hojlund next game, as he can't decide between him and Zirkzee. Ugarte is nailed on and important but Mainoo was fortunate to start IMO. But we end up going behind and then they both need to be sacrificed as they're too defensive. Feels like Fernandes dropping deep into midfield beside Ugarte was the shout today but it's all hindsight. In essence, Amorim has his idea, but not the slightest idea on who should play where. He has said this week they've still only had 7 training sessions and that the rest of the season will be a rollercoaster, but just how much can he do in a preseason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Zirkzee is a much better player than Hojlund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The players he has are not suited to the formation he wants to play To get them to a good level he probably needs at least 4 players, two full backs, a CM and a striker If he gets those I can see him doing well. To then challenge for the title he'll need a few more signings The difficulty he has is whether he'll be given the time/signings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Fair play for fronting up Froggy, again. A bit funny how Ashworth apparently wanted Howe and got sacked for it. But I don't think this is down to any manager or how they want to play. Squarely on the owners and has been for years, yet even Ferguson defended them. Either way, thanks for cheering us all up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, Froggy said: Would be hard to disagree with to be honest. It feels like Amorim still has no clue what his best eleven is. Yoro was moved to LCB today. De Ligt moved to RCB. Dalot kept on the left despite us knowing Mitoma's pace would be an issue. Will probably start Hojlund next game, as he can't decide between him and Zirkzee. Ugarte is nailed on and important but Mainoo was fortunate to start IMO. But we end up going behind and then they both need to be sacrificed as they're too defensive. Feels like Fernandes dropping deep into midfield beside Ugarte was the shout today but it's all hindsight. In essence, Amorim has his idea, but not the slightest idea on who should play where. He has said this week they've still only had 7 training sessions and that the rest of the season will be a rollercoaster, but just how much can he do in a preseason? I wonder how much of it factored in Ashworth leaving? If you have a manager wedded to a very specific formation that not many teams use and needs specific players brought in to make it work, it doesn't sound like it aligns much with having a DoF who will be looking to keep continuity regardless of the manager. Even if he's ultimately successful it has that feeling about it where you'd need to overhaul again with a new manager once he's gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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