54 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 That's a hell of a mission statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Mostly when i've watched them with an analytical eye under Anorim, they always seem to just lack control. Poor and rushed in possession. Only really dangerous on the counter or from a moment from Fernandes or Amad. Everything looks chaotic and frenetic, like he's guessing where to put which pieces on the chess board. Often find myself wondering how spectacularly it can go wrong on a given day, can't imagine being emotionally invested in them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 11 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Zirkzee is a much better player than Hojlund. Not much between them tbh, but are extremely different players in what they offer, so it feels weird that the manager doesn't really know which one he prefers. It should be obvious depending on what he wants from a striker. The thing is Man Utd are a graveyard for even top talent, have been for ages now, so the likes of those two don't really stand a chance particularly with the expectations of the level required. At another lesser club I'm sure they'd both be doing OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 54 said: Reads like part of a sketch where someone's trying to get laid off for the redundancy package. Edited January 19 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 If that’s what he says to the media, what does he tell the players in team talks/training. The player power dynamic there will see he’s gone before too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 15 minutes ago, Abacus said: That's a hell of a mission statement He's not wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 18 minutes ago, Abacus said: That's a hell of a mission statement More like a pay me off and get me out of here statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 19 minutes ago, 54 said: They're going to sack this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, KaKa said: They're going to sack this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, PauloGeordio said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 19 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Mostly when i've watched them with an analytical eye under Anorim, they always seem to just lack control. Poor and rushed in possession. Only really dangerous on the counter or from a moment from Fernandes or Amad. Everything looks chaotic and frenetic, like he's guessing where to put which pieces on the chess board. Often find myself wondering how spectacularly it can go wrong on a given day, can't imagine being emotionally invested in them. He has a very specific way of playing, and the players he's got are either not suited to it, or haven't bought in at all. I. don't think that means he's a bad manager, Howe and Iraola also struggled early on to impose their systems on players who weren't used to it. Man U fans and their owner will need a lot of faith and perseverence if they really believe in Amorin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Actually ... let me rephrase. I think he's trying to get himself sacked, so he can get his pay off and get the hell out of there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, TRon said: He has a very specific way of playing, and the players he's got are either not suited to it, or haven't bought in at all. I. don't think that means he's a bad manager, Howe and Iraola also struggled early on to impose their systems on players who weren't used to it. Man U fans and their owner will need a lot of faith and perseverence if they really believe in Amorin. Yep and I don't know if he has the pragmatism to just play a basic system, get a few wins and get to the summer where he can mold his squad to be more suited to his philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 7 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: More like a pay me off and get me out of here statement 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Actually ... let me rephrase. I think he's trying to get himself sacked, so he can get his pay off and get the hell out of there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: Actually ... let me rephrase. I think he's trying to get himself sacked, so he can get his pay off and get the hell out of there Now that he’s had a little time to look at it from the inside out! Poison chalice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Oh wow. Didn't even see your post Spot on! Definitely sounds like it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Nah, they won't sack him like and nor should they. He's inherited ten Hag's sack of shit and hasn't had the chance to remove that stench before he even tries to implement his own stamp on his squad. I know he's brought his system with him and he's adamant that he's not changing it in any way - it's admirable but by coming out so publically and insisting on it he's painted himself into a corner, managers and players know exactly what's coming meaning they're predictable and if he does change it it looks 'weak' because he's insisted he won't. Even if it's the right thing to do, he's tied his own hands together. Also, I know that squad isn't suited to that formation but surely players costing millions and millions of pounds can be sat down and told how to modify their normal game. Insanely talented players should be able to make a decent fist of adjusting their game using their skills and doing the job that's being asked of them rather than just doing their normal thing? Blaming the players for not being able to slightly change the way they play is about a damning criticism as you can get - running/working, controlling, passing and shooting the football are basics that they should all be excellent at - yes the tactical/positioning side of things needs a bit of time but they're stinking the place out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 If Man Utd win the EL do they take the CL off of the 5th spot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfmk2 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 If Man Utd (or Spurs) win the Waffa Cup this year, and if the PL coefficient is highest, will 5th still get a CL place? Wrong thread to ask, I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, Decky said: If Man Utd win the EL do they take the CL off of the 5th spot? If so we'd better not finish 5th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfmk2 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, Decky said: If Man Utd win the EL do they take the CL off of the 5th spot? Great minds think alike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Tbh Rafa Benitez would have sorted this out and made them tough to beat and winning again hes had poor talent in his last few jobs would have been a safer pair of hands than Amorim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, midds said: Nah, they won't sack him like and nor should they. He's inherited ten Hag's sack of shit and hasn't had the chance to remove that stench before he even tries to implement his own stamp on his squad. I know he's brought his system with him and he's adamant that he's not changing it in any way - it's admirable but by coming out so publically and insisting on it he's painted himself into a corner, managers and players know exactly what's coming meaning they're predictable and if he does change it it looks 'weak' because he's insisted he won't. Even if it's the right thing to do, he's tied his own hands together. Also, I know that squad isn't suited to that formation but surely players costing millions and millions of pounds can be sat down and told how to modify their normal game. Insanely talented players should be able to make a decent fist of adjusting their game using their skills and doing the job that's being asked of them rather than just doing their normal thing? Blaming the players for not being able to slightly change the way they play is about a damning criticism as you can get - running/working, controlling, passing and shooting the football are basics that they should all be excellent at - yes the tactical/positioning side of things needs a bit of time but they're stinking the place out Not only that, as professionals making a huge wedge, they should want to adapt, learn new systems, become more than they currently are. There's not an industry on the planet pays more and yet so many involved don't want to, or can't be arsed, to be open to new ideas. Almost like once they've got the fat contract, why bother? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 If we get our European position altered after the season because of some cup win two seasons in a row man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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