Manchester United

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, lovejoy said:

Well that begs the question as to how you are struggling so badly now?

 

Is it really just a lack of two wing backs?

 

You look dogshit from front to back whenever i see you

 

I'm not saying we only need wing backs, I'm just saying they're the only specialised positions that might not fit into a future team without Amorim at the helm.

[Zero]

It’s fine to give Amorim a free pass this season but Froggy I really know a lot of fans started to lose faith on him and think might be Man Utd should hire someone else this summer

[Sibierski]

36 minutes ago, Smal said:

All 3 CB positions are specialist as well as the two 10s in his system. 

 

And a CM for me, because Ugarte / Mainoo just won't work. Amazes me how often I see Man Utd, how slow Mainoo is tracking back. I just don't think it's in his natural mindset to sprint back which makes him in a two an issue. 

[Froggy]

3 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

And a CM for me, because Ugarte / Mainoo just won't work. Amazes me how often I see Man Utd, how slow Mainoo is tracking back. I just don't think it's in his natural mindset to sprint back which makes him in a two an issue. 

 

We desperately need another CM to partner Ugarte. Mainoo is very good, but he still needs a lot of development and needs to be protected. Ugarte is doing all of that work himself in there at the minute, and Mainoo isn't offering enough going forward for that to be acceptable. 

 

In terms of importance I think it's the following:

 

LWB - Doesn't need any explanation. We don't really have a suitable left back that can stay fit. 

CM - As mentioned above. Needs more depth to let Mainoo develop properly. Eriksen and Casemiro too old.

CF - Hojlund is 21 and not yet ready to be the starting striker. Zirkzee is 23 and more of a #10 IMO. 

RWB - Dalot might be alright here as he has the pace, but would need depth either way as Mazraoui is too slow. Mazraoui would be more of a squad player for numerous positions.

GK - Onana is SHIT.

CAM - Someone to backup Bruno and Amad.

 

It's going to take a few windows.

[Dr.Spaceman]

No chance Owld Jim is letting you plug all those holes any time soon

[Froggy]

Just now, Dr.Spaceman said:

No chance Owld Jim is letting you plug all those holes any time soon

 

Can't argue. It's totally reliant on sales. If we sell Rashford or Garnacho for anything significant we'll be able to spend a fortune though.

[Fak]

 

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Sibierski said:

 

And a CM for me, because Ugarte / Mainoo just won't work. Amazes me how often I see Man Utd, how slow Mainoo is tracking back. I just don't think it's in his natural mindset to sprint back which makes him in a two an issue. 

Similar to Miley where athleticism isn’t a strength with Mainoo. Doesn’t know the game/position well enough to compensate yet. Still has a lot to develop physically too. 

[Mike]

52 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Can't argue. It's totally reliant on sales. If we sell Rashford or Garnacho for anything significant we'll be able to spend a fortune though.

 

Is there a market for Rashford, though? Feel like you're gonna end up eating more than half of those wages.

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[STM]

Again it comes back to expectations. 

 

Their team/squad is horrific. Not even average but literally filled with players who wouldn't get games at other PL clubs.

 

Fernandes is their only exceptional player. They've got two young lads in Amad and Mainoo who've got bright futures but under SAF would have been drip fed into the team, not relied upon as their star players.

 

Keeper is shite, defenders are shite (De Ligt showing a glimmer of hope), Ugarte ain't it either, if PSG didn't want him, then Man United shouldn't want him. 

 

Sign young hungry players. Kerkez, Delap, Semenyo, Cunha, players of this standard. Stop buying over priced, over paid players who failed elsewhere.

[Groundhog63]

1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

No chance Owld Jim is letting you plug all those holes any time soon

He won't even plug the holes in the roof without laying off some Admin, man. 

 

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Dokko]

11 hours ago, Sibierski said:

Pre Amorim era

 

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Current stance

 

Aka, please sack me Ratcliffe.

 

'I have one way of doing things' 

 

Terrible management. He needs to get a tune out of what he's got now, improve results, get interest in players, and clear out in the summer. All he's doing is making a difficult squad to sell completely unsellable. A better management stages this transition. Understands where he wants to go and until they have the tools at their disposal to do so, do what they can with what they've got. I do think if he survives the season and backed in the summer, he'll go on to build something, but the complete lack of control of the current situation, means he's more likely to get the boot beforehand.

 

Naïve, one dimensional, dour, negative and stubborn manager. Looks and acts like a novice, with the job being far too big for him to handle.  

[RodneyCisse]

 

[JUICE690]

Like them to do a PSR Chelsea one.

[Conjo]

59 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

'I have one way of doing things' 

 

Terrible management. He needs to get a tune out of what he's got now, improve results, get interest in players, and clear out in the summer. All he's doing is making a difficult squad to sell completely unsellable. A better management stages this transition. Understands where he wants to go and until they have the tools at their disposal to do so, do what they can with what they've got. I do think if he survives the season and backed in the summer, he'll go on to build something, but the complete lack of control of the current situation, means he's more likely to get the boot beforehand.

 

Naïve, one dimensional, dour, negative and stubborn manager. Looks and acts like a novice, with the job being far too big for him to handle.  

 

Afaik this was the premise for signing for Man Utd in the middle of the season, that he would be allowed to adopt his style of play, and could effectively write the season off while getting the team adjusted to his tactics. Anything bar genuine threat of relegation why should he all of a sudden change the core principle of his way of playing?

 

Besides, I bet he makes a lot of subtle changes from game to game, like Howe does when we're struggling, which isn't necessarily obvious to us watching all the time.

 

Still remember some people complaining about our style of play in the championship under Rafa as they wanted us to steam roll other teams. Rafa knew better and was preparing the whole squad for the return to the PL. Short term pain for long term gain isn't necessarily the wrong thing to do. Next season will tell us more about his qualities as a manager imo.

 

[brummie]

The manager only seems to understand 3-4-3, which almost never works in the PL and in any case effectively becomes 5-4-1, only when they've got some shit like Zirkzee up front, it's 5-4-0.

 

And a squad which is horrendously lopsided. Imagine paying 65m for Antony. Jesus mary. And then they had Martial sucking up pure cash for almost 10 years. 

 

Fuck them, I hope they never recover.

[Erikse]

1 hour ago, brummie said:

The manager only seems to understand 3-4-3, which almost never works in the PL and in any case effectively becomes 5-4-1, only when they've got some shit like Zirkzee up front, it's 5-4-0.

 

And a squad which is horrendously lopsided. Imagine paying 65m for Antony. Jesus mary. And then they had Martial sucking up pure cash for almost 10 years. 

 

Fuck them, I hope they never recover.

 

It was 95 mill euros, which is around £80m..

[Jaqen]

He came in when Man U were 4 points of a champions league place. It's not really good enough to just rack up losses each week and come out with statements like aye we're a bit shite aren't we? Whilst being the one directly responsible for that playing a system that doesn't suit the current squad 

 

It just seems mad to write off a season with the hope that backing him loads in the summer to buy specific players for a formation will help fix it all. It's not even like he has a massive resume of past success over a number of years with different sides where you could base the confidence off. 

 

 

 

 

[tinoasprilla]

What formation do Man Utd have the players for?  4 2 3 1.  Like if rumour is true and little Dan the rat wanted Howe they still couldn’t play 4 3 3.  Where does Fernandes play?   Still have issues at left back, keeper unless the Turk is decent and cf 

[Erikse]

[Ronaldo]

55 minutes ago, tinoasprilla said:

What formation do Man Utd have the players for?  4 2 3 1.  Like if rumour is true and little Dan the rat wanted Howe they still couldn’t play 4 3 3.  Where does Fernandes play?   Still have issues at left back, keeper unless the Turk is decent and cf 

 

To be fair, Howe plays a 4-3-3 quite different to most in terms of no midfielder to play between the lines.

[BlueStar]

8 hours ago, Dokko said:

 

'I have one way of doing things' 

 

Terrible management. He needs to get a tune out of what he's got now, improve results, get interest in players, and clear out in the summer.   

 

Saw Sir Les on a TNT Sports programme where they were discussing Postecoglu's similar issues with inflexiblity and he said a lot of this attitude can be traced back to Pep being asked if Barcelona lacked a Plan B in the Champions League. His response was "My Plan B is just to do Plan A, but better", which it seemed managers at all levels thought was a badass response and gave them a good reason to just persist with what they know without having to put in work to come up with alternatives. Of course the problem is that these managers are not Pep Guardiola, nor are they managing Barcelona. 

[TK-421]