Dokko Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 11 hours ago, Sibierski said: Pre Amorim era Reveal hidden contents Current Amorim era Reveal hidden contents Current stance Aka, please sack me Ratcliffe. 'I have one way of doing things' Terrible management. He needs to get a tune out of what he's got now, improve results, get interest in players, and clear out in the summer. All he's doing is making a difficult squad to sell completely unsellable. A better management stages this transition. Understands where he wants to go and until they have the tools at their disposal to do so, do what they can with what they've got. I do think if he survives the season and backed in the summer, he'll go on to build something, but the complete lack of control of the current situation, means he's more likely to get the boot beforehand. Naïve, one dimensional, dour, negative and stubborn manager. Looks and acts like a novice, with the job being far too big for him to handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JUICE690 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Like them to do a PSR Chelsea one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 59 minutes ago, Dokko said: 'I have one way of doing things' Terrible management. He needs to get a tune out of what he's got now, improve results, get interest in players, and clear out in the summer. All he's doing is making a difficult squad to sell completely unsellable. A better management stages this transition. Understands where he wants to go and until they have the tools at their disposal to do so, do what they can with what they've got. I do think if he survives the season and backed in the summer, he'll go on to build something, but the complete lack of control of the current situation, means he's more likely to get the boot beforehand. Naïve, one dimensional, dour, negative and stubborn manager. Looks and acts like a novice, with the job being far too big for him to handle. Afaik this was the premise for signing for Man Utd in the middle of the season, that he would be allowed to adopt his style of play, and could effectively write the season off while getting the team adjusted to his tactics. Anything bar genuine threat of relegation why should he all of a sudden change the core principle of his way of playing? Besides, I bet he makes a lot of subtle changes from game to game, like Howe does when we're struggling, which isn't necessarily obvious to us watching all the time. Still remember some people complaining about our style of play in the championship under Rafa as they wanted us to steam roll other teams. Rafa knew better and was preparing the whole squad for the return to the PL. Short term pain for long term gain isn't necessarily the wrong thing to do. Next season will tell us more about his qualities as a manager imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 The manager only seems to understand 3-4-3, which almost never works in the PL and in any case effectively becomes 5-4-1, only when they've got some shit like Zirkzee up front, it's 5-4-0. And a squad which is horrendously lopsided. Imagine paying 65m for Antony. Jesus mary. And then they had Martial sucking up pure cash for almost 10 years. Fuck them, I hope they never recover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, brummie said: The manager only seems to understand 3-4-3, which almost never works in the PL and in any case effectively becomes 5-4-1, only when they've got some shit like Zirkzee up front, it's 5-4-0. And a squad which is horrendously lopsided. Imagine paying 65m for Antony. Jesus mary. And then they had Martial sucking up pure cash for almost 10 years. Fuck them, I hope they never recover. It was 95 mill euros, which is around £80m.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 He came in when Man U were 4 points of a champions league place. It's not really good enough to just rack up losses each week and come out with statements like aye we're a bit shite aren't we? Whilst being the one directly responsible for that playing a system that doesn't suit the current squad It just seems mad to write off a season with the hope that backing him loads in the summer to buy specific players for a formation will help fix it all. It's not even like he has a massive resume of past success over a number of years with different sides where you could base the confidence off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 What formation do Man Utd have the players for? 4 2 3 1. Like if rumour is true and little Dan the rat wanted Howe they still couldn’t play 4 3 3. Where does Fernandes play? Still have issues at left back, keeper unless the Turk is decent and cf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ronaldo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 55 minutes ago, tinoasprilla said: What formation do Man Utd have the players for? 4 2 3 1. Like if rumour is true and little Dan the rat wanted Howe they still couldn’t play 4 3 3. Where does Fernandes play? Still have issues at left back, keeper unless the Turk is decent and cf To be fair, Howe plays a 4-3-3 quite different to most in terms of no midfielder to play between the lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 hours ago, Dokko said: 'I have one way of doing things' Terrible management. He needs to get a tune out of what he's got now, improve results, get interest in players, and clear out in the summer. Saw Sir Les on a TNT Sports programme where they were discussing Postecoglu's similar issues with inflexiblity and he said a lot of this attitude can be traced back to Pep being asked if Barcelona lacked a Plan B in the Champions League. His response was "My Plan B is just to do Plan A, but better", which it seemed managers at all levels thought was a badass response and gave them a good reason to just persist with what they know without having to put in work to come up with alternatives. Of course the problem is that these managers are not Pep Guardiola, nor are they managing Barcelona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KingArthur Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 hours ago, tinoasprilla said: What formation do Man Utd have the players for? 4 2 3 1. Like if rumour is true and little Dan the rat wanted Howe they still couldn’t play 4 3 3. Where does Fernandes play? Still have issues at left back, keeper unless the Turk is decent and cf I would say at the moment they do not have enough quality players for any formation. But certainly they could play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 which means they would have 2 CM from the pool of Ugarte, Mainoo, Eriksen and Casemiro and Bruno above them. Amad and Garnacho on the wings and either Zirkzee or Höjlund up top. Still no LB or enough wingers though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 57 minutes ago, TK-421 said: Worst thing is, it's my mate who does the voiceover for these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Froggy said: Worst thing is, it's my mate who does the voiceover for these. Just came in to post this one. Brilliant Edited January 21 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Worst thing is, it's my mate who does the voiceover for these. Decky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Decky? I have more than one friend Shay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 34 minutes ago, Froggy said: I have more than one friend Shay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Decky hates him as well IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Got to admit, I'm disappointed Liverpool didn't go for Amorim over Slot now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 20/01/2025 at 09:03, Froggy said: Worth noting he didn't say it's the worst Man United side ever, he said we're being the worst Man United side ever, i.e. performing as bad as the worst Man United side ever. Do you think he needs to clarify his statement then? Because the official Premier League website, basically the blandest matchday programme of football news and who could hardly be described as having a history of sensational headlines originally had this title for its article And has now changed it to this, which isn't much better and still doesn't reflect what you think he really meant. https://www.premierleague.com/news/4229828 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, BlueStar said: Do you think he needs to clarify his statement then? Because the official Premier League website, basically the blandest matchday programme of football news and who could hardly be described as having a history of sensational headlines originally had this title for its article And has now changed it to this, which isn't much better and still doesn't reflect what you think he really meant. https://www.premierleague.com/news/4229828 He said in the same sentence, "I know you want headlines. There's your headline." You could almost say it was a tongue in cheek remark based on that. Maybe he does need to clarify what he said mind, and I'm sure he'll be asked about it before the next match in the press conference so will be given the opportunity to do so. I agree with what he said though, that in this moment in time we're being the worst team in Man United history. I know we've been relegated before, but the form we're in is relegation form. I'm sure this is what he meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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El Prontonise Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It's a cutback every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I didn't realise all these guys were still getting salaries. Do they all still do work for the club in some capacity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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