Manchester United

[SiLvOR]

17 hours ago, Froggy said:

Mount will play a lot this year IMO. 

Fingers crossed 

[kingxlnc]

Anyone rather get De Ligt over Guehi? 

[Slim]

No

[Coffee_Johnny]

Out of our wage bracket. 

[SweMag]

46 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

There's a petition with over 70,000 signatures from Bayern fans desperate for the club to keep De Ligt as he's their best centre back. Bayern are only selling for financial reasons as he's on £265k a week and they can bring in Tah for a decent fee and half the wages. De Ligt is obviously class though and a big upgrade on everyone we have bar Martinez.

 

Mazraoui an upgrade on Wan Bissaka as he can attack and isn't as positionally weak, but his injury record is properly shocking to be fair.

 

They are selling him because they don’t need him, he’s a backup on a high wage and only Manchester United are stupid enough to pay big to get him to the club.

 

Kim Min-jae is their best centre back.

[Froggy]

19 minutes ago, SweMag said:

 

They are selling him because they don’t need him, he’s a backup on a high wage and only Manchester United are stupid enough to pay big to get him to the club.

 

Kim Min-jae is their best centre back.

 

De Ligt started all the major games and Kim Min-jae was benched. Kim only played when De Ligt was injured. De Ligt fully recovered from his injury in December and since that moment he started every game, except for league games after Champions League games where they were clearly being careful with his fitness. The only CL knockout game he didn't start was the first leg in the last 16 against Lazio. Upamecano and Kim started this game and they lost 1-0. De Ligt then started the next leg (Kim benched) getting an assist as Bayern won 3-0. He also started both quarter finals against Arsenal and one of the semi finals against Real Madrid (the other he missed due to injury). Sure though, De Ligt is the backup.

 

With all due respect, aside from the facts listed above, I'll listen to the German Bayern Munich fans on this matter.  Their opinion matters more than mine or yours, and they're desperate for him to stay.

[SweMag]

4 hours ago, 54 said:

I've not really paid too much attention to them, how good are De Ligt and Mazraoui? Assuming they're half decent? 

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/erik-ten-hag-matthijs-de-ligt-transfer-swoop-man-utd-misstep-bayern-munich-defender-backwards-since-leaving-ajax/blt80793dba77e38ff2

[Froggy]

 You're using an article written by a Man United fan on goal.com (great source BTW). A guy who's ridiculed by our fanbase for his articles. This year alone he has said Garnacho is the next Ronaldo, that Mourinho is the best choice to come back in right the ship and best of all he compared Sancho to Messi. 

 

Again, let's listen to the Germans:

https://www.change.org/p/keep-de-ligt-wir-wollen-de-ligt

 

And aye, his career definitely went backwards after moving to Bayern. Second in their player of the year awards and included in the Bundesliga team of the year in his title winning debut season.

https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2023/07/player-of-the-season-2022-23

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/team-of-the-season-2022-23-vote-fifa-ea-sports-fut23-23319

 

He was injured half of last season, which is literally the only negative against him since his move to Bayern. If you want to attack the injury record then work away, I won't argue that it's a concern. Trying to suggest like he's a backup or surplus to requirements is just silly though. The move is purely financial as Bayern can replace him with a player close to his level while banking £10-15m in transfer profit and saving another £6m a year on wages.

 

Just state your opinion that you don't rate the guy instead of trying to make stuff up and then attempting to back it with the worst junk media imagineable. You're one step away from referencing an article in the Scottish Daily Sport.

[Big River]

was de Ligt the one who couldn't get a kick for a poor Netherlands team in the Euros?

[Menace]

De Ligt has never impressed me personally, looked poor at Juve when Chiellini and Bonucci wasn't covering his arse. I don't think he's Bayern's best defender.

[Big River]

Just now, Menace said:

De Ligt has never impressed me personally, looked poor at Juve when Chiellini and Bonucci wasn't covering his arse. I don't think he's Bayern's best defender.

 

but... but... there's a petition!!

 

[SweMag]

10 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 You're using an article written by a Man United fan on goal.com (great source BTW). A guy who's ridiculed by our fanbase for his articles. This year alone he has said Garnacho is the next Ronaldo, that Mourinho is the best choice to come back in right the ship and best of all he compared Sancho to Messi. 

 

Again, let's listen to the Germans:

https://www.change.org/p/keep-de-ligt-wir-wollen-de-ligt

 

And aye, his career definitely went backwards after moving to Bayern. Second in their player of the year awards and included in the Bundesliga team of the year in his title winning debut season.

https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2023/07/player-of-the-season-2022-23

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/team-of-the-season-2022-23-vote-fifa-ea-sports-fut23-23319

 

He was injured half of last season, which is literally the only negative against him since his move to Bayern. If you want to attack the injury record then work away, I won't argue that it's a concern. Trying to suggest like he's a backup or surplus to requirements is just silly though. The move is purely financial as Bayern can replace him with a player close to his level while banking £10-15m in transfer profit and saving another £6m a year on wages.

 

Just state your opinion that you don't rate the guy instead of trying to make stuff up and then attempting to back it with the worst junk media imagineable. You're one step away from referencing an article in the Scottish Daily Sport.

As I said, they are selling him because they don’t need him, he’s a backup on a high wage and they already have other options in his position.

[Froggy]

23 minutes ago, SweMag said:

As I said, they are selling him because they don’t need him.

 

They're selling him because it makes financial sense.

 

23 minutes ago, SweMag said:

he’s a backup 

 

Incorrect. As stated above. He started every game for them when he was fit. 

 

23 minutes ago, SweMag said:

on a high wage and they already have other options in his position.

 

Correct. 

 

You've completely dodged all of the facts thrown at you above, which is quite impressive.  If you want to continue to appear clueless, by all means carry on.

 

 

Edited August 5, 2024 by Froggy

[SweMag]

All the stats from last season is irrelevant. He’s for sale, they get an injury-prone player of the wage bill, Manchester United are stupid enough to pay the fee and they already have well-established players at the club who can play at centre back. It’s a perfect sale. You make it sound like he’s prime Paolo Maldini when in reality even a 34-years old Daley Blind will start games before him in the Dutch national team 

[gdm]

 

[alexf]

Yeah heard that. I'm sure there's more to it than just that, but even so, wouldn't surprise me that the "Sky 6" get let off things others don't, as we have already seen it. 

[Froggy]

11 minutes ago, gdm said:

 

 

 

[Pixelphish]

Not that I don't believe they'd love to do that to protect their crown jewel. But it didn't happen.

[Charlies]

1 hour ago, gdm said:

 

 

https://x.com/DanLang12/status/1820862860005712350

 

Unreal

[McCormick]

Should probably be in the Ffp thread as there’s a few interesting snippets in there. 

[Ben]

Would you mind explaining yourself to the group @Froggy

[Froggy]

5 minutes ago, Ben said:

Would you mind explaining yourself to the group @Froggy

 

Yeah I think if I had a fiver for every time that man said "appears", I'd be as rich as Sir Jim. 

[RodneyCisse]

That can’t be true, otherwise Everton and Forest about to go to town on the premier league.

[gdm]

Yeah personally I don’t believe it. Surely these things have to be transparent amongst the PL clubs 

[r0cafella]

We clearly need full transparency on financial matters if we are to continue with these rules mind. If what he’s saying is true question have to answered by the league as to why it’s one rule for Chelsea and Man United and another for everyone else.