Froggy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Who is better? Luis Suarez or Robin van Persie http://media.nu.nl/m/m1nx2peawfhh_sqr256.jpg Alright so I put the idea forward for this thread based on a debate about two players. Hopefully plenty of people chip in with their opinions on who they think is better. Each week (roughly) I'll change the two players and a new debate will begin. Some points: Opinions should be based on the players ability while in their prime, e.g. if it's Gerrard, think 2005/06, not now. Disciplinary records should not blind someones view unless it's football related, e.g. don't judge Suarez by the bite, but do judge Scholes on his yellows due to his tackles. I reckon it should stay Premier League, so almost everybody can have a valid opinion on it. Personally, I can remember from the 21st of Oct 1996 onwards. Not a day before... Lastly and most importantly, give a reason why! Go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 NWOAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 We'll give it a week or two anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I voted Van Persie. But I really think Suarez edges him. I just hate Suarez so much, though. Fucking biting, cheating, cunt. Van Persie is also a cunt, but a lesser cunt. In other words, fuck your points. Fuck your thread. So angry now. Pitting two massive cunts against eachother, looking at their mugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I guess I hate RVP more nowadays. Can't separate them abilitywise. Would prefer a 'who was/is a bigger c***?' based on the first two players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Horrible choice of players to start with. Thread suicide. Should've eased into it before throwing massive cuntsacks at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Personally, and it may come as no surprise, I think Van Persie is the better player. I was a bit shocked to see a few people rate Suarez far higher than Van Persie. Reasons below. First off, a lot of people like quoting stats, while a lot find them misleading, but I'll start there. If I was to directly compare stats of the players, Van Persie has scored more goals in each of his last three seasons than Suarez. They were level last season with goals, but van Persie had three more assists, a higher passing success rate (80.02 vs 76.06), less shots per game, more aerial duels won per match and less bookings. It's pretty much the same for all seasons. Van Persie dominates the stats. http://www.whoscored.com/Players/4564/History/Robin-van-Persie http://www.whoscored.com/Players/22221/History/Luis-Surez ------------- Aside from dribbling, at which Suarez is clearly superior, I can't see any other aspects of his game that are better than Van Persies. Corners? Van Persie. Free kicks? Very close, but I'd say Van Persie. Penalties? Van Persie. Technique wise I don't think there's a striker in the league that touches Van Persie. Suarez is capable of thumping in a wonder goals AS we've seen many times this season, but does he have the technique to control a ball and finish like Van Persie? I'll point to his goal against Villa last season. Van Persie is probably the only striker in the league capable of doing that. Likewise with his goal against Charlton for Arsenal a few years back. Just sheer genius. Very similar records at international level. I don't think there's anything to separate either player there. You could argue Netherlands are stronger than Uruguay or vice versa. But it would be nitpicking. Suarez is a world class player, but when both are fit and firing, Van Persie is a better player IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Horrible choice of players to start with. Thread suicide. Should've eased into it before throwing massive cuntsacks at us. I kind of just continued on with the debate in the Liverpool thread. Had Solskjaer and Hernandez lined up next week... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Horrible choice of players to start with. Thread suicide. Should've eased into it before throwing massive cuntsacks at us. I kind of just continued on with the debate in the Liverpool thread. Had Solskjaer and Hernandez lined up next week... Why not Kevin Phillips and James Beatie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Horrible choice of players to start with. Thread suicide. Should've eased into it before throwing massive cuntsacks at us. I kind of just continued on with the debate in the Liverpool thread. As am I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Feel like adding "They're both cunts" but it'd poison the voting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 So you went for your boy Suarez instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 So you went for your boy Suarez instead? Forgot he was such an asshole before I voted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Horrible choice of players to start with. Thread suicide. Should've eased into it before throwing massive cuntsacks at us. I kind of just continued on with the debate in the Liverpool thread. Had Solskjaer and Hernandez lined up next week... Cunt obsession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 An 8 game ban for biting isn't football related? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Who is better? Luis Suarez or Robin van Persie http://media.nu.nl/m/m1nx2peawfhh_sqr256.jpg Alright so I put the idea forward for this thread based on a debate about two players. Hopefully plenty of people chip in with their opinions on who they think is better. Each week (roughly) I'll change the two players and a new debate will begin. Some points: Opinions should be based on the players ability while in their prime, e.g. if it's Gerrard, think 2005/06, not now. Disciplinary records should not blind someones view unless it's football related, e.g. don't judge Suarez by the bite, but do judge Scholes on his yellows due to his tackles. I reckon it should stay Premier League, so almost everybody can have a valid opinion on it. Personally, I can remember from the 21st of Oct 1996 onwards. Not a day before... Lastly and most importantly, give a reason why! Go! Yeah, yeah, yeah. http://i1.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article1381468.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/philippe-albert-celebrates-after-scoring-against-man-u-302845402-1381468.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 At the moment Suarez strolls into a World XI. Van Persie would never get into one, not even to warm the bench, at any time in his career. Next week Ian Huntley vs Fred West. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Suarez. No contest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Suarez. No contest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I love that you felt you had to add photos like as if somehow, Suarez and Van Persie wasn't clear enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Until this season would have said rvp now its Suarez who now finishes efficiently like him but has a lot more to his game too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Prior to this season i would say RVP still even though i thought Suarez had a better season. Suarez however seems to have taken things to another level this season and if he maintains this kind of form for the next year, no doubt Suarez is the better player. Suarez's current form may slide the votes in his favour as his recent brilliance is fresh in the memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 RVP has never been as good as Suarez has been for the last year. There's no contest imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I detest them both but I would have to say Suarez. RVP is a very classy striker but Suarez is a different level of threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Van Persie is the better player for me, but there is not much in it. Both come from the Eredivisie though, so I doubt both would be any good in the Premiership as the Eredivisie is piss easy, or so I'm told.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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