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Alot of untruths are told by agents, clubs and players during these negotiations. I read that quote as more of an invitation to come back with more rather than a case closed. The only problem is others expect these negotiations to be flexible but our ownership usually tend to be pretty rigid in theamount of wiggle room they have, or at least that's how it appears. So alas, I suspect it's probably done and dusted, with of course no time to look at alternatives, some will say that is convenient, other would say there is time but they don't have a desire to make things happen. 

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Sounds a hell of a lot more like him not fancying us than Ashley failing to pay up. That wont sit well with the fake bid brigade.

 

:lol: might it not have been prudent to source alternatives before hand? rather than one player? A bid under the valuation and wages half of what cabaye was getting?

He said this 2 days ago, man:

 

£20m or £25m it matters not a jot. We'd be lucky to see £10m of it reinvested in a future window.

 

Bloke doesn't know where he's at.

 

:lol: polemic viewpoints "we won't spend anything!!" / "lol at you fake bid crew!"

 

So we bid £10 million and it didn't work, either because the fee was too low, or possibly because the player was never that interested. I reckon it was more the second one. Low bids tend to work when the player actively wants the move no?

 

I'd have liked to see a few alternatives yeah. But replacing Cabaye is not an easy job. Personally I don't know who those alternatives would be. I trust in Carr's judgement. I'd rather hang on and get the right player. There's little left to play for this season.

 

I don't love our transfer policy but you'd have to admit, we've brought in some superb transfers. Not enough obviously, but the days of spunking £6m on the likes of Bramble are over.

 

This is the only username I've ever had.

 

Now that I'm done talking, you may bring the rage.

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It's an example of an owner/chairman showing solidarity with a respected manager's judgement to bring in a young British player for probably more than he was worth. It didn't turn out like we wanted but he more than repaid his transfer fee.

 

As if any idiot would prefer the nonsense we've got now over that.

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It's an example of an owner/chairman showing solidarity with a respected manager's judgement to bring in a young British player for probably more than he was worth. It didn't turn out like we wanted but he more than repaid his transfer fee.

 

As if any idiot would prefer the nonsense we've got now over that.

 

Be less abstract mate, what your saying is going over heads.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but what ronaldo is saying is he prefers the days when we were in for young highly rated English players and being competitive in the transfer market.

 

For those that are too young to remember how highly though of Bramble was we are talking in relative terms of Tom ince

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Sounds a hell of a lot more like him not fancying us than Ashley failing to pay up. That wont sit well with the fake bid brigade.

 

:lol: might it not have been prudent to source alternatives before hand? rather than one player? A bid under the valuation and wages half of what cabaye was getting?

He said this 2 days ago, man:

 

£20m or £25m it matters not a jot. We'd be lucky to see £10m of it reinvested in a future window.

 

Bloke doesn't know where he's at.

 

:lol: polemic viewpoints "we won't spend anything!!" / "lol at you fake bid crew!"

 

So we bid £10 million and it didn't work, either because the fee was too low, or possibly because the player was never that interested. I reckon it was more the second one. Low bids tend to work when the player actively wants the move no?

 

I'd have liked to see a few alternatives yeah. But replacing Cabaye is not an easy job. Personally I don't know who those alternatives would be. I trust in Carr's judgement. I'd rather hang on and get the right player. There's little left to play for this season.

 

I don't love our transfer policy but you'd have to admit, we've brought in some superb transfers. Not enough obviously, but the days of spunking £6m on the likes of Bramble are over.

 

This is the only username I've ever had.

 

Now that I'm done talking, you may bring the rage.

 

You're proper suspicious.

 

Replacing Cabaye isn't an easy job, but we've had half a season to line up the right guy, so there's nothing to "hang on" about it - if we'd intended to replace him, we would have - and we'd have done a Spurs-style replacement of doing as or before he left.

 

There's nowt to play for this season, but we'd want his would-be replacement to settle into the side so we could attack next season properly - unless that is... that you didn't give actually give a shit because

 

a) this season was safe (almost at 40 points joy of all joys); and

b) you would only even consider investing in a replacement in the summer if a second-half-of-the-season decline without a Cabaye replacement (and Shola as the best striking option that the club owns :lol:) would be so bad that it'd indicate our 2014/15 season would be a relegation season

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Be less abstract mate, what your saying is going over heads.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but what ronaldo is saying is he prefers the days when we were in for young highly rated English players and being competitive in the transfer market.

 

For those that are too young to remember how highly though of Bramble was we are talking in relative terms of Tom ince

 

Seems pretty obvious, like. Can't adapt all my posts for the likes of Brett. :undecided:

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Be less abstract mate, what your saying is going over heads.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but what ronaldo is saying is he prefers the days when we were in for young highly rated English players and being competitive in the transfer market.

 

For those that are too young to remember how highly though of Bramble was we are talking in relative terms of Tom ince

 

Seems pretty obvious, like. Can't adapt all my posts for the likes of Brett. :undecided:

 

The thing that makes me laugh about the point you made is its not really debatable.

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It's an example of an owner/chairman showing solidarity with a respected manager's judgement to bring in a young British player for probably more than he was worth. It didn't turn out like we wanted but he more than repaid his transfer fee.

 

As if any idiot would prefer the nonsense we've got now over that.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong in buying cheaper young foreign players. It's just that we have stopped doing that too and selling teams now know what we are doing. It was obvious that we wouldn't get Grenier or Cabella cheap.

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What I don't understand is... Especially after watching a program on the the mechanics of how a transfer deal works is how we've reached this point either in the last 48hrs but in reality since the end of the last window when they give Cabaye the reassurance that they would let him leave...

 

1. You get your list of targets prepared

2. Speak to their agents and enquire if they are interested in the move and get a basic idea of wages agreed

3. If so approach club and make a bid until acceptable or rejected and move to the next target on the list

 

How are we bidding for a player who doesn't seem to have any great desire to join us?...

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Sounds a hell of a lot more like him not fancying us than Ashley failing to pay up. That wont sit well with the fake bid brigade.

 

:lol: might it not have been prudent to source alternatives before hand? rather than one player? A bid under the valuation and wages half of what cabaye was getting?

He said this 2 days ago, man:

 

£20m or £25m it matters not a jot. We'd be lucky to see £10m of it reinvested in a future window.

 

Bloke doesn't know where he's at.

 

:lol: polemic viewpoints "we won't spend anything!!" / "lol at you fake bid crew!"

 

So we bid £10 million and it didn't work, either because the fee was too low, or possibly because the player was never that interested. I reckon it was more the second one. Low bids tend to work when the player actively wants the move no?

 

I'd have liked to see a few alternatives yeah. But replacing Cabaye is not an easy job. Personally I don't know who those alternatives would be. I trust in Carr's judgement. I'd rather hang on and get the right player. There's little left to play for this season.

 

I don't love our transfer policy but you'd have to admit, we've brought in some superb transfers. Not enough obviously, but the days of spunking £6m on the likes of Bramble are over.

 

This is the only username I've ever had.

 

Now that I'm done talking, you may bring the rage.

 

You're proper suspicious.

 

Replacing Cabaye isn't an easy job, but we've had half a season to line up the right guy, so there's nothing to "hang on" about it - if we'd intended to replace him, we would have - and we'd have done a Spurs-style replacement of doing as or before he left.

 

There's nowt to play for this season, but we'd want his would-be replacement to settle into the side so we could attack next season properly - unless that is... that you didn't give actually give a s*** because

 

a) this season was safe (almost at 40 points joy of all joys); and

b) you would only even consider investing in a replacement in the summer if a second-half-of-the-season decline without a Cabaye replacement (and Shola as the best striking option that the club owns :lol:) would be so bad that it'd indicate our 2014/15 season would be a relegation season

 

You think I have a suspicious nature? Or you think I'm a mackem?

 

Beren, your viewpoint is understandable. You could well be spot on. Ideally, yeah, of course giving the right guy half a season to settle in would be brilliant.

 

But suppose the criteria for replacing Cabaye (similar quality, or with the potential to be, affordable, and interested to come) only threw up two names, Grenier and Cabella. And neither want to move right now. Worth hanging on for? Maybe.

 

I saw enough chances created against an admittedly poor Norwich side to not give up completely. The real problem has been taking chances and hopefully De Jong can help with that.

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I don't think there's anything wrong in buying cheaper young foreign players.

 

Nobody said there was, though I'd probably disagree with that.

 

We were just in a much better place financially and on the field when we didn't target players who'd merely ensure our PL survival and bring in a profit when it was time to sell.

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