toon25 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: If he did a shit job for Ashley, Ashley would've fired him in the 7 years. It's just that simple. Commercial revenue wise - Ashley was most concerned with the free advertising for Sports Direct everywhere he could. What does signing loads of players mean about their acumen? QPR signed loads of players. It might work, it might not. But the fact they don't have a sponsor suggests there is a problem somewhere in the upper management. Maybe not recruitment but somewhere. I'm sure if you were looking for a sponsorship deal, however, the best man for the job would be 'Big' Lee Charnas, who did a sterling job of driving down commercial revenue at his last job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: If he did a shit job for Ashley, Ashley would've fired him in the 7 years. It's just that simple. Commercial revenue wise - Ashley was most concerned with the free advertising for Sports Direct everywhere he could. What does signing loads of players mean about their acumen? QPR signed loads of players. It might work, it might not. But the fact they don't have a sponsor suggests there is a problem somewhere in the upper management. Maybe not recruitment but somewhere. I just don't understand how you can commend someone for simply appearing to be a yes man specifically in the role to shield the ultimate decision maker. He was MD when we were relegated in 2016.... but well done Mr. Charnley, sir, despite you nodding with absolute class in MA's direction you were unable to help the team stay in the Premier League (apparently your one remit). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 54 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: "hoo, before you hoy them chairs in the store take those cheese boards off em. It's all money, you kna" This cheeseboard story sounds made up. I'm pretty sure Sodexo would have been responsible for such things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Happinesstan said: This cheeseboard story sounds made up. I'm pretty sure Sodexo would have been responsible for such things. Was in The Athletic tho. Quoting the Head Chef. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, Groundhog63 said: Was in The Athletic tho. Quoting the Head Chef. I know where it comes from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Happinesstan said: I know where it comes from. Take it up with them then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Was in The Athletic tho. Quoting the Head Chef. What's this like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I just don't understand how you can commend someone for simply appearing to be a yes man specifically in the role to shield the ultimate decision maker. He was MD when we were relegated in 2016.... but well done Mr. Charnley, sir, despite you nodding with absolute class in MA's direction you were unable to help the team stay in the Premier League (apparently your one remit). I'm not really commending him. Priti Patel is seemingly doing a good enough job for the Tory's. Her bosses within the party seem happy enough with her. If another political party with the same beliefs and objectives took her in, I wouldn't be surprised. Did Charnley do a good job for us fans? No. But it wasn't his job to make us happy. As time went on, I became convinced the odd-relegation was part of Ashley's business model for the club. Sell the best players, invest enough to get us back up. Then swirl the drop for another 5-6 years. That's why I stopped posting when Rafa left and brought in Brucey. The whole point of the club was to just about stay in the PL and even if we got relegated, that's ok. Invest enough to get back up and do it all over again. It's also why I was never too mad at Brucey. He knew the job. Stay up if you can. Don't get the fans excited and don't criticise the fat man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I'm not really commending him. Priti Patel is seemingly doing a good enough job for the Tory's. Her bosses within the party seem happy enough with her. If another political party with the same beliefs and objectives took her in, I wouldn't be surprised. Did Charnley do a good job for us fans? No. But it wasn't his job to make us happy. As time went on, I became convinced the odd-relegation was part of Ashley's business model for the club. Sell the best players, invest enough to get us back up. Then swirl the drop for another 5-6 years. That's why I stopped posting when Rafa left and brought in Brucey. The whole point of the club was to just about stay in the PL and even if we got relegated, that's ok. Invest enough to get back up and do it all over again. It's also why I was never too mad at Brucey. He knew the job. Stay up if you can. Don't get the fans excited and don't criticise the fat man. You what? 'The fact the new leadership kept him around for a little bit shows he has some competence'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, toon25 said: What's this like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Saying charnley did an adequate job at running a premier league club to simply and just barely exist in the premier league is a hill I’ll never choose to die on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 5 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I'm not really commending him. Priti Patel is seemingly doing a good enough job for the Tory's. Her bosses within the party seem happy enough with her. If another political party with the same beliefs and objectives took her in, I wouldn't be surprised. Did Charnley do a good job for us fans? No. But it wasn't his job to make us happy. As time went on, I became convinced the odd-relegation was part of Ashley's business model for the club. Sell the best players, invest enough to get us back up. Then swirl the drop for another 5-6 years. That's why I stopped posting when Rafa left and brought in Brucey. The whole point of the club was to just about stay in the PL and even if we got relegated, that's ok. Invest enough to get back up and do it all over again. It's also why I was never too mad at Brucey. He knew the job. Stay up if you can. Don't get the fans excited and don't criticise the fat man. I think most of us had a problem with Charnley because he wasn't really a football professional. Wasn't he promoted from some sort of admin role initially? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Did I just see Priti Patel used as an argument for why Charnley did a good job here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I know a few people that know him well, said he’s a top bloke, but shouldn’t ever be running a company as big as NUFC and has zero football knowledge. Did donate quite a bit of time and his own money to the West End Food Bank mind so he gets a bit slack from me, but he was terrible at his job on every level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: anyone got a link or a copy of that full article? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cookie1892 said: anyone got a link or a copy of that full article? It's on here somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cookie1892 said: anyone got a link or a copy of that full article? https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftheathletic.com%2F3484338%2F2022%2F08%2F07%2Fnewcastle-st-james-park-nottingham-forest%2F%3Fsource%3Demp-shared-article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: Bet we tried to buy six grand’s worth ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Bet we tried to buy six grand’s worth ? We'd have just bulk bought Dairylea cheese triangles from Aldi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 57 minutes ago, Cf said: Did I just see Priti Patel used as an argument for why Charnley did a good job here? I’m not saying he did a good job for us. He seemingly did a good enough job for Ashley - his employer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I’m not saying he did a good job for us. He seemingly did a good enough job for Ashley - his employer. As did Joe Kinnear for what that's worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 If the criteria is doing what the owner demanded of his employee, then Bruce did a great job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, TRon said: As did Joe Kinnear for what that's worth. as DOF did he even sign any players? He was sacked after 6 months or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HTT II said: If the criteria is doing what the owner demanded of his employee, then Bruce did a great job! Yeh Bruce did a good job for Ashley. Didn’t moan too much about the upper management. Kept the team in the division long enough to sell the club. Being an Ashley sheep was a big part of being a Ashley era manager. Any manager that put sporting achievement or the fans as a priority was peddled. That’s not in the job description. Edited August 11, 2022 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Out on his arse again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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