The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 RAQ I was with you in thinking you can't play Sissoko in a midfield 2. His defensive positioning is awful but sometimes he looks capable fo being disciplined. Having Colback next to him doesn't help mind. It's worth a try but I don't think it will work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Sissoko has always struggled when playing as a deeper CM, he really isn't a good defensive player at all. An Abeid-Sissoko-De Jong triumvirate has disaster written all over it. Are you kidding? Abeid would be more than enough to take care of the defensive role, leaving Sissoko and De Jong free to provide some firepower. Are you joking? One defensive midfielder with how poor our team is defensively? You are talking about us being a negative team, yet you want two defensive midfielders in there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 If De Jong plays as a #10 we would need two players to play deep, one playmaker type and one ballwinner type. If we play 4-3-3 De Jong doesn't fit anywhere other than as the striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 KRUL JANMAAT COLO DUMMETT HAIDARA ABEID CABELLA SISSOKO AARONS DE JONG PEREZ Although i'd like to see Perez as a 10 with Cisse up top, but it's fitting the right players in their correct positions, i do agree however there's not a lot of protection for that defence, Alternate Perez and De Jong with Cisse up top. to think there is two other strikers that are either shit or can't get a game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I like that formation, but in reality, I dont think Abeid is up to it yet unless Sissoko doing lots of defensive works. Still worth to invest time though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I can't actually think of a system that accommodates all of our attacking players when fit and works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I can't actually think of a system that accommodates all of our attacking players when fit and works Correct, as is the case with every team in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I can't actually think of a system that accommodates all of our attacking players when fit and works Correct, as is the case with every team in the world. aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I think people are being a bit harsh on Colback. I certainly don't he should be starting every game, but considering he was a free -it's a useful signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rent-A-Quote Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Sissoko has always struggled when playing as a deeper CM, he really isn't a good defensive player at all. An Abeid-Sissoko-De Jong triumvirate has disaster written all over it. Are you kidding? Abeid would be more than enough to take care of the defensive role, leaving Sissoko and De Jong free to provide some firepower. Are you joking? One defensive midfielder with how poor our team is defensively? You are talking about us being a negative team, yet you want two defensive midfielders in there? We ARE a negative team. I don't WANT us to be negative. See the difference? (Hint: being and wanting are not the same) If we are to play negative, with two defensive midfielders as has been happening, then I would play Abeid and Anita. It's not my fantasy or out, but to me, the best of what we've got to support the whole team. Playing De Jong would be like playing Ben Arfa in central midfield, would you do that? Of course I would change the formation and the personnel if I was manager but I'm not am I? So I focus on what we've got not what level I think we're at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Sissoko has always struggled when playing as a deeper CM, he really isn't a good defensive player at all. An Abeid-Sissoko-De Jong triumvirate has disaster written all over it. Are you kidding? Abeid would be more than enough to take care of the defensive role, leaving Sissoko and De Jong free to provide some firepower. Are you joking? One defensive midfielder with how poor our team is defensively? You are talking about us being a negative team, yet you want two defensive midfielders in there? We ARE a negative team. I don't WANT us to be negative. See the difference? (Hint: being and wanting are not the same) If we are to play negative, with two defensive midfielders as has been happening, then I would play Abeid and Anita. It's not my fantasy or out, but to me, the best of what we've got to support the whole team. Playing De Jong would be like playing Ben Arfa in central midfield, would you do that? Of course I would change the formation and the personnel if I was manager but I'm not am I? So I focus on what we've got not what level I think we're at. If you were to play Abeid and Anita in the holding roles, then who would you not play out of Sissoko and De Jong? Either way, not playing one of them to play Abeid AND Anita would be a negative move. I think I am getting a grasp of this football malarky, thank you for your patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I think people are being a bit harsh on Colback. I certainly don't he should be starting every game, but considering he was a free -it's a useful signing. That's the trouble though, he's been brought in to be Cabaye's replacement. Shocking stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Jack Colback should have been sent off for two yellow card offences – namely fouls on Marc Muniesa (booked) and Victor Moses (let off) – during Newcastle’ United’s 1-1 draw at home to Stoke City on Sunday. Minutes after Kevin Friend turned a blind eye to the challenge on Moses, Colback shot Newcastle ahead. With some justification, Mark Hughes said the referee had not been strong enough or brave enough to send off a player wearing black and white at St James’ Park. It is hard to disagree – even Colback said he caught Moses and could “not have argued” had he seen red. And yet … the former Sunderland midfielder is a fabulous, much underrated player. In his typical, quiet fashion he had a good game, sensibly filling in at left back on occasions when Massadio Haïdara and Sammy Ameobi left that flank exposed and invariably used the ball sensibly. Always competitive but never niggly or remotely nast, Colback wants to win but never sets out to hurt anyone and consistently refrains from whinging when things go wrong. Moreover, he’s blesses with a lovely left foot, is positionally astute and a much better passer than often given credit for. On a human level, he’s a really nice person. “Low maintenance” as Alan Pardew used to put it. Small wonder Friend was seduced. Newcastle’s scorer was lucky here but the English game needs more Jack Colbacks. Louise Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Alan Smith syndrome. Idiot fans: "Fuckin' gerrin Smudger/Jack, mint tackle that, love players who get stuck in like" Fans with brains: "He only had to lunge into that tackle because his positioning/movement is so fucking piss poor" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 He's not positionally astute at all, it's by far the worst aspect of his game He literally runs in straight lines towards players instead of getting back into shape and pressing in an ordinary manner. It's something you'd expect from a striker, not a central midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 He spends the majority of the game jogging between opponents, I think that's why he disappears out of the game in the later stages. He's fresh enough to actually reach the odd one in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 If he continues anything close to his goal return of late he's sort of giving justification to being in the side given the alternatives like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I don't mind him overall, I think he could be coached into better positioning and reading of the game if we had any decent coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Our pressing has been horrific for years like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Proper pressing would suit the attacking lads definitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Our pressing has been horrific for years like. Sissoko was the only member of yesterday's 5 in midfield fit enough to press properly for the whole game unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Our pressing has been horrific for years like. Sissoko was the only member of yesterday's 5 in midfield fit enough to press properly for the whole game unfortunately. That's why Abeid should be in that midfield for me, he's the only other one who can close down players quickly. Colback just doesn't have the legs for it no matter how good a left foot he has. The midfield area is constantly dominated by the opposition as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 4-2-3-1 is how we normally set up. If we want to include De Jong then sissoko needs to drop back a touch. defense as per... Abeid and sissoko Cabella De Jong Perez Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 He's got both the most assists & most goals of anyone in our team the last 10 games. Says it all. Hes doing something right like. Probably deserves a place in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I wouldn't even have an "ideal midfield", any 4 out of Abeid/Sissoko/Anita/Cabella/De Jong would work fine, filling the 2*CM,1*AM,1*RW positions. I guess you mix it up depending upon who you're against but in reality they won't all be fit anyway. Sissoko in AM if Anita & Abeid start, else in CM. Colback can be involved every so often too, but I guess it'd be him or Anita, and I have much more hope of Anita improving over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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