KaKa Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/agenda-jack-colback-can-newcastle-7636028 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I don't think there's much to be gained by these debates about whether Colback is the replacement for Cabaye, Tiote, Anita or whoever. Colback offers his own package, and it's a matter of finding the best combination of players. But one opinion that I really hope has bitten the dust after Sunday was the idea that he's just a hard-working clogger who can't pass the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/gcIdN42.png Misleading much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/gcIdN42.png Misleading much Misleading what? He has already worn #14 so its obviously not squad number related. What is it about? Ex mackems playing for us or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I don't think there's much to be gained by these debates about whether Colback is the replacement for Cabaye, Tiote, Anita or whoever. Colback offers his own package, and it's a matter of finding the best combination of players. But one opinion that I really hope has bitten the dust after Sunday was the idea that he's just a hard-working clogger who can't pass the ball. Nobody has ever had that opinion. Being an average footballer doesn't instantly mean you're a clogger who cannot pass a ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/gcIdN42.png Misleading much Misleading what? He has already worn #14 so its obviously not squad number related. What is it about? Ex mackems playing for us or something? players who've played for both clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I don't necessarily have a problem with signing Colback on a free - he looked decent on Sunday and was better than I had expected. However, my issue is that buying him has effectively stopped us actually fixing the problems we have in central midfield i.e. creativity and he is no better than Tiote, Anita or Sissoko in their preferred positions. We did get Cabella and De Jong TBF, you could argue we'll end up with more attacking threat than when we had Cabaye. Especially if Sissoko is allowed to play centrally. Nope. I'd rather have Cabaye, HBA & Remy than Cabella, De Jong, Riviere at this juncture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 i think what we called "cabaye's replacement" is the midfielder who can score regularly by picking up the chances created by our lone striker i.e. the one who just behind our striker. The key man in our final third, the finisher of our plays, our focal point. No way Colback is playing this role. It must be De Jong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Just stop shoe-horning players into "replacement" and you've gotten yourself sorted here. We still lack a central player who plays in the midfield that can dictate our play with intelligent passes and such. Cabella is a great attacking player who we've sorely lacked in the last 6 months, and Siem De Jong is potentially our future club captain and/or a good link-up man who not only is intellgent in the final 3rd but could help us in terms of hold-up, link-up, switching play and being somewhat of an aerial threat in the box - if his resume is anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 'Ginger Pirlo' according to Adrian Durham Jack Colback is England class – his set-pieces are phenomenal. And he’s got bottle as well. This kid isn’t stupid. He’s a Geordie who’s well aware of the passions on Tyneside and Wearside. These fans don’t hold back when it comes to rivalries. Even punching a horse isn’t off limits when it’s Newcastle vs Sunderland. So for a Newcastle fan to make the move from Sunderland to St James’ Park, and on a free transfer – well, you’ve got to admire Colback’s balls. And check out his Newcastle debut. Sure they lost, but you’ve got to have a small-minded football brain to think there were no positives for Alan Pardew after the match, and Colback was one of them. He’s the Ginger Pirlo, trusted with the set-pieces, and delivering good service with most of them. I like this kid, and I can’t help thinking that if he’d come through at Arsenal, Liverpool or even the 'boutique' academy at Southampton, Colback would have had an England call-up by now. At Sunderland he was forced to play at full back, and a succession of different managers never got the best out of him consistently until Gus Poyet turned up. He’s a central midfielder who can pass, and who can deliver a deadly set-piece. Go and watch him, Roy. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2728574/Wayne-Rooney-Manchester-United-s-natural-leader-Ginger-Pirlo-Jack-Colback-deserves-England-call-Jordan-Henderson-Steven-Gerrard.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/andrian-durham-re-jack-colback-as-the-ginger-pirlo.955950/ The resulting thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Imagined getting paid to write such nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Easily one of the biggest flids in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The fact people are clicking on his articles and discussing it will be job done as far as he's concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Easily one of the biggest flids in football. https://twitter.com/ssschtevvv/status/497491164929744899 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I don't know if people saw the article I posted earlier. It was just as over the top. These guys really need to relax a bit. Goodness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 There are better midfield players than Colback in the England squad, but there's a situation vacant in the anchor role. Colback isn't a clear fit for that role, but neither is Henderson. It could happen. He's still got a long career ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He's going to have to show a big improvement to get in the England squad. Even if he did, he'll be a one cap wonder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
powellnufc Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He looks like he could potentially be a great cm, he showed glimpses of his ability on the ball to push the team forward. He just needs to impose himself on the game a bit more, as he appeared to drift in and out of the play. Would be a great partner for a more deeper midfielder like anita and tiote if he could take control the play to a greater extent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I don't necessarily have a problem with signing Colback on a free - he looked decent on Sunday and was better than I had expected. However, my issue is that buying him has effectively stopped us actually fixing the problems we have in central midfield i.e. creativity and he is no better than Tiote, Anita or Sissoko in their preferred positions. We did get Cabella and De Jong TBF, you could argue we'll end up with more attacking threat than when we had Cabaye. Especially if Sissoko is allowed to play centrally. Nope. I'd rather have Cabaye, HBA & Remy than Cabella, De Jong, Riviere at this juncture. I'd much rather have those three if they were allowed to play, but Ben Arfa isn't and wasn't really allowed to last season either. Assuming Cabella and De Jong will start consistently I think they'll probably offer more assists and goals than Cabaye and a mostly benched Ben Arfa. Though obviously I doubt Riviere is going to give us what Remy did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Can this lad play on the right? Maybe his delivery could be put to good use there, that is if we aren't going to see benny ever again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 There are better midfield players than Colback in the England squad, but there's a situation vacant in the anchor role. Colback isn't a clear fit for that role, but neither is Henderson. It could happen. He's still got a long career ahead of him. Henderson is a better athlete though and can cover ground much quicker I would imagine. They don't even play the same position though, I'm not really sure where the comparison comes from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 It's quite funny how the discussions around Colback have changed since he was linked then signed to now after one game. I think we got an alright player, good age and on a free. Looking forward to seeing if there is more to him than I've previously thought, but he was decent against City. Probs our most effective player for that game which is a great start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 My opinion hasn't changed on him at all tbh. Just confirmed what I thought about him after watching him against us in a couple of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 There are better midfield players than Colback in the England squad, but there's a situation vacant in the anchor role. Colback isn't a clear fit for that role, but neither is Henderson. It could happen. He's still got a long career ahead of him. Henderson is a better athlete though and can cover ground much quicker I would imagine. They don't even play the same position though, I'm not really sure where the comparison comes from. Well the comparison arose on the hypothetical that they were competing for the anchor role in the England team. Neither are ideally suited, but neither was Gerrard. At the moment, Henderson seems to be the only candidate, but tbh, I'm really not sure what Henderson is. He strikes me as a player of modest natural talent who has added lots of bits to his game by dint of hard work. All credit to him for that, but now and then those bits look a bit shaky. He has a good all round game, but he hasn't really imposed himself in the England side. When a young player gets his chance, you really want to see him give everyone the message - this is where I belong. The naturally gifted players like Barkley, Wilshere and the Ox have exuded that confidence from the start, but I haven't seen that from Henderson. That anchor position carries a lot of responsibility, but does Henderson really want that? At Liverpool, he seems to have a much freer role. I've not seen Colback in the anchor role, but he can tackle, he reads the game well and he feeds the ball forward to his team-mates pretty well. What also impressed me on Sunday was his composure. It was a big game for him, with a lot of pressure on his shoulders as the defecting mackem. The opposition was very strong, but he seemed relaxed and just played his natural game. So I think if he had a chance at international level, he wouldn't freeze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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