Stottie Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Great video Sewelly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think one attacking player in a team is just about allowable. I've thought about this. Even with our negative, defensive tactics we still get battered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I never get the workrate argument anyway - I don't actually think HBA is even that lazy or defensively neglectful. It is just a lazy argument. he's awful defensively imho, even during that period when he was doing what pardew wanted he did little more than stand in front of the guy with the ball...can barely remember him ever making a tackle but during that period he did get back in position well enough I'd agree that from a tactical and technical point of view, he isn't a good defender, but I think he does pressurise people and puts the effort in to track back. To be honest, I can't think of many wingers who are good tacklers of the ball, so in my view it isn't really relevant. As long as he is putting in the effort to be a nuisance and close people down, Pardew shouldn't have any complaints at all. i totally agree, and i also agree with what others said in response to my post about us not playing him for his defending...no-one in their right mind would obviously, but the fact is that while he can put in work rate and get back he's fucking terrible at defending so it begs the question why (as a professional manager) you'd bother pushing this point as far as pardew has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Watching that video, I feel I want to tie Pardew to a fucking goalpost and play the video to him hundreds of times. But the dumbfuck would still leave him out of the team.! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The trouble is, unless you play him as a striker or give him a free role behind a lone striker, situations will arise where he has to help defend. I think his best position is the free role, but that didn't prove too successful. It needs someone who is hard-working, with a good football brain. The shame is that HBA has the talent but not the right attitude to self improvement. He seems to reach a certain point, and then blow it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Whadda guy: http://twitter.com/RCaveman81/status/499603895480778752/photo/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Whadda guy: http://twitter.com/RCaveman81/status/499603895480778752/photo/1 Look at the size of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Fat cunt can't even get out his motor these days. Won't be long before he's housebound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Didn't he get banned from driving? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 God i wish to have him in our team for the season When Cabaye and Debuchy left i didn't feel nearly as much as i do about a possible HBA exit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I usually just lurk here but this forum's commitment to hba and the ability to see through the obvious lies from the club is fantastic. Echoing what Nath wrote on the last page, arguing this topic on another forum has become tiresome, it's good to see the majority of the fans view this for the travesty that it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The trouble is, unless you play him as a striker or give him a free role behind a lone striker, situations will arise where he has to help defend. I think his best position is the free role, but that didn't prove too successful. It needs someone who is hard-working, with a good football brain. The shame is that HBA has the talent but not the right attitude to self improvement. He seems to reach a certain point, and then blow it. He's got both. There's a difference between being crap at tackling and not working hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 .com: Not mentioning Hatem Ben Arfa here will doubtless result in people assuming we're either with or against him depending on their own view. As succinctly as possible: he has been handled poorly by the manager with his "one size fits all" approach, but lacked the personal professionalism a sportsman needs to get himself fit last season - that's unrelated to a management dispute, if he'd worked as hard on his fitness as Ryan Taylor then this problem wouldn't have festered and grown. The damage was done in July 2013 when he sat by a Portuguese pre-season pitchside in his flip flops and by the following January waddled off the bench at Carrow Road. The sale of Cabaye highlighted that fact and doubtless prompted the question from on high, just why are we still paying this bloke? Anyone have a clue what that means? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 They're cunts, is what it means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 .com: Not mentioning Hatem Ben Arfa here will doubtless result in people assuming we're either with or against him depending on their own view. As succinctly as possible: he has been handled poorly by the manager with his "one size fits all" approach, but lacked the personal professionalism a sportsman needs to get himself fit last season - that's unrelated to a management dispute, if he'd worked as hard on his fitness as Ryan Taylor then this problem wouldn't have festered and grown. The damage was done in July 2013 when he sat by a Portuguese pre-season pitchside in his flip flops and by the following January waddled off the bench at Carrow Road. The sale of Cabaye highlighted that fact and doubtless prompted the question from on high, just why are we still paying this bloke? Anyone have a clue what that means? To me it serms that even the guy that wrote that shite hasn't got a clue what he was talking about. WTF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 .com: Not mentioning Hatem Ben Arfa here will doubtless result in people assuming we're either with or against him depending on their own view. As succinctly as possible: he has been handled poorly by the manager with his "one size fits all" approach, but lacked the personal professionalism a sportsman needs to get himself fit last season - that's unrelated to a management dispute, if he'd worked as hard on his fitness as Ryan Taylor then this problem wouldn't have festered and grown. The damage was done in July 2013 when he sat by a Portuguese pre-season pitchside in his flip flops and by the following January waddled off the bench at Carrow Road. The sale of Cabaye highlighted that fact and doubtless prompted the question from on high, just why are we still paying this bloke? Anyone have a clue what that means? The Cabaye sale made him realise we shouldn't pay Ben Arfa as he wore flip flops pitchside one game, waddled of the bench at another. Madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Aye, if only Ben Arfa had got himself fit again after a near career ending injury like Ryan Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Urgh, .com really have gone to pot in recent years IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 They're tucked away in the club's underpants pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Is there any actual evidence of that btw? I've always assumed they're on a dripfeed from the club, such is the accuracy of their reporting of rumours/etc, but never more than speculated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangoliver Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Don't know what the hell they are writing about. For a start Ben Arfa started the game at Norwich away last season and did not come off the bench at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He and Sammy played very well on the wings in that first half as well IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Bolded paragraph is gibberish but the first section is perfectly reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Urgh, .com really have gone to pot in recent years IMO. Dunno how recent it is, they used to talk a disgraceful amount of shite about Robert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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