lovejoy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He's obviously under instruction from Rafa to keep running and don't allow the opponents to settle on the ball too often. It's an absolute key role in our good start the season, he created the first goal because of it and scored the second. Hence the credit he's getting for working hard. And he should be. Yes but what if we could find someone who can work hard and play football? moot point at present really isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He's obviously under instruction from Rafa to keep running and don't allow the opponents to settle on the ball too often. It's an absolute key role in our good start the season, he created the first goal because of it and scored the second. Hence the credit he's getting for working hard. And he should be. Aye, there was a noticeable difference in the high pressing when he went off, allowed them to pin us deeper back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 On the ball hs pretty poor man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 And had a great game against West Ham. He's not our worst player, that's for sure. He's better than Diame and had a good partnership with Mitro first season when they played together. Last season and this season, that's not the case, but still they have one goal together against West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He might be one of our worst players getting regular minutes. There’s nobody better than him mind on the books it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Consistency is important, a player who does one good thing in 60 minutes is not worth pursuing with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He's a bit of a weird one like. Works hard now (which was always my biggest gripe) but still gets muscled off the ball too easily and gives away possession cheaply too often still. He's almost completely unable to shoot from distance or put in quality delivery when he gets the chance. I think he's actually a large reason for why we have such a poor pass completion percentage / low number of passes. Against that, it was obvious how much we missed his workrate and pressing when he went off. Rafa's got him drilled as to what he wants from a number 10, just think a slight lack of quality on the ball is the issue now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He's obviously under instruction from Rafa to keep running and don't allow the opponents to settle on the ball too often. It's an absolute key role in our good start the season, he created the first goal because of it and scored the second. Hence the credit he's getting for working hard. And he should be. Yes but what if we could find someone who can work hard and play football? Then we'd play him. You could say that about the £5m centre forward currently starting as well. Or the £150k goalkeeper, and the right-footed left back from the scrap heap. We have a lot of first team players who aren't good enough at this level, which isn't surprising considering what they cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I was watching him yesterday and thinking of the role Okazaki plays for Leicester, in terms of successful #10's it's probably the best style for Perez to emulate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He's obviously under instruction from Rafa to keep running and don't allow the opponents to settle on the ball too often. It's an absolute key role in our good start the season, he created the first goal because of it and scored the second. Hence the credit he's getting for working hard. And he should be. Yes but what if we could find someone who can work hard and play football? Then we'd play him. You could say that about the £5m centre forward currently starting as well. Or the £150k goalkeeper, and the right-footed left back from the scrap heap. We have a lot of first team players who aren't good enough at this level, which isn't surprising considering what they cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest milburn990 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Another masterclass from Raffa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I really dont get that he is good at pressing etc - if that was the requirement for our number 10, surely we have better "pressers"? That is literally all he offers - someone running around chasing shadows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I really dont get that he is good at pressing etc - if that was the requirement for our number 10, surely we have better "pressers"? That is literally all he offers - someone running around chasing shadows We really really don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest milburn990 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I really dont get that he is good at pressing etc - if that was the requirement for our number 10, surely we have better "pressers"? That is literally all he offers - someone running around chasing shadows Started the move for the first goal and scored the second, nearly an assist when Joselu hit the crossbar, I wish he would chase shadows more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Apart from his goal i thought he was poor yesterday. Again he seemed to find some decent positions but his final ball was terrible or he took too long to do something with it. It's really frustrating as i thought he'd be a much more incisive player by this stage of his career. Having said that, i'm willing to stick with him for now as there are signs he could be quality for us - his workrate, strength and ability to find space have all improved under Rafa. Plus the talent is definitely there - that flick over the defender's head and 1st time through ball to Atsu in the Liverpool game was outrageous! If he can start giving us more moments like that and add a better goal ratio in the next couple of months then we've got a class player on our hands. He's got the monkey off his back now with his 1st goal of the season, let's hope he can kick on now. Rafa has got faith in him so why shouldn't i? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think Ayoze can do some things that no one else can but can't do some of the things that everyone can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Most of the time he's getting muscled off the ball or not finding a pass it's because there's fuck all on for him. He's obviously trying to play on the turn and release the runners but there's rarely anyone there. Ritchie doesn't get out of defence quick enough to capitalise. Leaves a massive gap that the oposition can ignore and push more men onto the others. Atsu does but doesn't seem to be on the same wavelength as Perez. Couple of times yesterday, Astu started charging down the left when Perez had obviously been forced to show right. Short of a 40yard lobbed backheel, there was no way the ball was going down the left channel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He's obviously under instruction from Rafa to keep running and don't allow the opponents to settle on the ball too often. It's an absolute key role in our good start the season, he created the first goal because of it and scored the second. Hence the credit he's getting for working hard. And he should be. Yes but what if we could find someone who can work hard and play football? Then we'd play him. You could say that about the £5m centre forward currently starting as well. Or the £150k goalkeeper, and the right-footed left back from the scrap heap. We have a lot of first team players who aren't good enough at this level, which isn't surprising considering what they cost. We can't stop discussing a players merits because we don't have anyone better. I wouldn't drop him either but he's a weak link in our side and we should look to upgrade. Him "working hard", doesn't cut it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think Ayoze can do some things that no one else can but can't do some of the things that everyone can. Like use a normal amount of hair product? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think Ayoze can do some things that no one else can but can't do some of the things that everyone can. Like use a normal amount of hair product? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I really dont get that he is good at pressing etc - if that was the requirement for our number 10, surely we have better "pressers"? That is literally all he offers - someone running around chasing shadows We really really don't. Play cap'n Jack at #10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Awful today, seemingly asked to a different role and failed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 He’s always awful, but it’s a sliding scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 He gets right on my wick with how wasteful he is in possession. We're desperate for an improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Tripe. Got the strength of a pre-teen, completely over-rated technical ability as well. Plays to me like he doesn't know the position, constantly losing the ball, messing around in possession, falling over, slow and and generally not contributing at all. A proper number 10 surely has to be a priority, would make massive difference to our attacking play, understatement of the century. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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