Ayozé Pérez (now playing for Villarreal)

[TRon]

It's still baffling how he hardly played in our opening matches!

 

 

 

 

It's not that baffling, it's clear McClaren didn't know our squad very well and was relying on the useless input of those who were already at the club. I'm sure he wouldn't have let Mehdi Abeid go if he'd seen his performances from last season before he got injured.

[The College Dropout]

It's still baffling how he hardly played in our opening matches!

 

 

 

 

It's not that baffling, it's clear McClaren didn't know our squad very well and was relying on the useless input of those who were already at the club. I'm sure he wouldn't have let Mehdi Abeid go if he'd seen his performances from last season before he got injured.

 

That's his own bad and smacks of lack of due diligence. Abeid and Ayoze trained all summer with him too.

[mrmojorisin75]

It's still baffling how he hardly played in our opening matches!

 

 

 

 

It's not that baffling, it's clear McClaren didn't know our squad very well and was relying on the useless input of those who were already at the club. I'm sure he wouldn't have let Mehdi Abeid go if he'd seen his performances from last season before he got injured.

 

That's his own bad and smacks of lack of due diligence. Abeid and Ayoze trained all summer with him too.

Agreed.

[TRon]

It's still baffling how he hardly played in our opening matches!

 

 

 

 

It's not that baffling, it's clear McClaren didn't know our squad very well and was relying on the useless input of those who were already at the club. I'm sure he wouldn't have let Mehdi Abeid go if he'd seen his performances from last season before he got injured.

 

That's his own bad and smacks of lack of due diligence. Abeid and Ayoze trained all summer with him too.

 

I think he went with Cisse on reputation and seniority over Ayoze. As for Abeid, maybe the club already had a deal in place and were keen for the deal to go through. Still suggests that McClaren is either spineless or just has poor judgement of a player. I'm not suggesting that Abeid was a fantastic player either, just we are very short of his type of box to box midfielder.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

You would have to believe Abeid was absolutely essential to veto a transfer that was already in place (and the player might have wanted) TBH. From looking at it, you would just see a young reserve player who'd spent most of his time injured or on loan. Just bad timing most likely.

[TRon]

You would have to believe Abeid was absolutely essential to veto a transfer that was already in place (and the player might have wanted) TBH. From looking at it, you would just see a young reserve player who'd spent most of his time injured or on loan. Just bad timing most likely.

 

From what we know, Carver and Pardew before him never really rated Abeid, so I can only assume that Carver was the prime instigator for selling him. Just this week Carver was moaning about Tiote not being available with all his qualities and how McClaren is lucky to have him back. I just don't think McClaren did enough homework on the form of some of our more well known players and obviously knew very little about Abeid.

[DJ_NUFC]

Let's not forget the abortion of a pre-season we had. Absolutely unprofessional at all levels. Regardless of where we end up this season, someone needs to take responsibility for that, and Charnley and McClaren seem as culpable as each other for it (former more so, of course, as the word is it was his plan along with Carver's).

[huss9]

Let's not forget the abortion of a pre-season we had. Absolutely unprofessional at all levels. Regardless of where we end up this season, someone needs to take responsibility for that, and Charnley and McClaren seem as culpable as each other for it (former more so, of course, as the word is it was his plan along with Carver's).

 

McLaren came out and openly complained about the pre-season arrangements. no real research or thought had gone into them. carver was mouthing off towards the end of last season how he was already making plans with charnley for preseason training and friendlies.

[Paully]

Linked with Arsenal in the Spanish press - I'm amazed we haven't massively increased his wages as he cant be on a great deal!

[Scoot]

I think it's safe to say, if an offer of £17M+ comes in for this lad, he'll be away. It'll go a long way towards balancing the books up from our £50M summer outlay.

 

We'll be losing our best player though.

 

What did Charnley say when we were looking for a new manager, it was summit like "if we sell a player, the manager and the fans will have to trust us to replace the player sold, even if it doesn't happen in the window in which the player is sold in".

 

Obviously that's not word for word but it was summit like that.

[mrmojorisin75]

I think it's safe to say, if an offer of £17M+ comes in for this lad, he'll be away. It'll go a long way towards balancing the books up from our £50M summer outlay.

 

We'll be losing our best player though.

 

What did Charnley say when we were looking for a new manager, it was summit like "if we sell a player, the manager and the fans will have to trust us to replace the player sold, even if it doesn't happen in the window in which the player is sold in".

 

Obviously that's not word for word but it was summit like that.

Given our start I'll be very surprised if they sell Perez personally. They can't be oblivious to the threat of relegation and selling Perez for anything other than stupid money would be a step Rotterdam towards going down. As would selling him for silly money and not investing it immediately. Sissoko I could maybe see go cause he wants away, that's about it.

 

[Scoot]

I think it's safe to say, if an offer of £17M+ comes in for this lad, he'll be away. It'll go a long way towards balancing the books up from our £50M summer outlay.

 

We'll be losing our best player though.

 

What did Charnley say when we were looking for a new manager, it was summit like "if we sell a player, the manager and the fans will have to trust us to replace the player sold, even if it doesn't happen in the window in which the player is sold in".

 

Obviously that's not word for word but it was summit like that.

Given our start I'll be very surprised if they sell Perez personally. They can't be oblivious to the threat of relegation and selling Perez for anything other than stupid money would be a step Rotterdam towards going down. As would selling him for silly money and not investing it immediately. Sissoko I could maybe see go cause he wants away, that's about it.

 

 

I wish i had your confidence.

[mrmojorisin75]

I think it's safe to say, if an offer of £17M+ comes in for this lad, he'll be away. It'll go a long way towards balancing the books up from our £50M summer outlay.

 

We'll be losing our best player though.

 

What did Charnley say when we were looking for a new manager, it was summit like "if we sell a player, the manager and the fans will have to trust us to replace the player sold, even if it doesn't happen in the window in which the player is sold in".

 

Obviously that's not word for word but it was summit like that.

Given our start I'll be very surprised if they sell Perez personally. They can't be oblivious to the threat of relegation and selling Perez for anything other than stupid money would be a step Rotterdam towards going down. As would selling him for silly money and not investing it immediately. Sissoko I could maybe see go cause he wants away, that's about it.

 

 

I wish i had your confidence.

Biggest TV deal in history coming up. Anything he 'invests' he'll immediately get back just by being in the league next season. Now the summer is a different thing entirely.

[sempuki]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-ready-hand-ayoze-10444201

[Guest]

I imagine he'll be on next to nowt in terms of a Premier League player's wage.

[Ikon]

"ready to hand" as if they know anything. Yes it seems likely but they know f*** all

 

Lazy "journalist" cunts..

[STM]

He's a breath of fresh air. Makes you a little less sick at modern footballers.

 

WHEN his moves comes, I will wish him the very best of luck... As long as he doesn't join Liverpool.

[Ikon]

Working out in Tenerife today our Ayoze! So loveable! (not because he's working out)

[sempuki]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/15/newcastle-united-ayoze-perez-manchester-united

[sbnufc]

What with the Euro's coming up I can see a situation where Ayoze wants out if Man Utd really are serious.  I'd love to think he wouldnt and stay loyal, but as seen with Tiote you need to go when those big teams come calling or they may never be back

[HawK]

I think he would be afforded more game time at Chelsea than any of the other 'top' clubs, the state they're in at the moment. Ayozé's a hard worker, could do a job amongst the attacking 3 of Hazard, Willian and Oscar.

[Sima]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/15/newcastle-united-ayoze-perez-manchester-united

 

There are shades of Jari Litmanen – and compliments rarely come bigger – David Silva, Peter Beardsley and Matt Jansen about his three-dimensional, “between the lines” game but, at only 22, Pérez has an awful lot to learn.

 

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[thomas]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/15/newcastle-united-ayoze-perez-manchester-united

 

There are shades of Jari Litmanen – and compliments rarely come bigger – David Silva, Peter Beardsley and Matt Jansen about his three-dimensional, “between the lines” game but, at only 22, Pérez has an awful lot to learn.

 

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[Sima]

[Wallace]

But as that Guardian article says, will he get enough game time at any of those clubs to continue to progress?  I would say that is unlikely.

 

The next TV deal is so huge there should no longer be the need to sell any players and if they sell Perez, then our chances of relegation would increase.  There is no guarantee that a new player would make an immediate impact and I cannot imagine that we will pick up enough points in the next month to be confident of survival and therefore able to take a gamble with selling key players.  To take that risk in this January window especially would be ridiculous.  That Guardian article says we would be tempted for 10 x £1.5m but it would be stupid to sell him for anything like that.  If he continues to progress at his current rate, he would easily be worth a lot more in a year's time.

 

Prices are only going to inflate even more with the new TV deal so if the interested clubs do make a bid in January it will probably be because they are looking to get him cheaper than they would once that deal is in place.

 

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I heard a journalist on the radio today saying that the Perez stories are all originating from the North East so whether they are agent-led (perhaps to get a new contract), being fed to the media by the club or being expanded upon by Lee Ryder continuing saying Man Utd are interested on who knows.