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Best league in the world. So that's potentially only Chelsea left (who themselves were worse than PSG in the first leg and will have problems if they don't up themselves) and Everton who got an easy tie.

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Best league in the world. So that's potentially only Chelsea left (who themselves were worse than PSG in the first leg and will have problems if they don't up themselves) and Everton who got an easy tie.

 

3 winners and 5 runners up in the last 10 years isn't bad.  :undecided:

 

Spain 4 times winners once runner up.

 

Italy 2 times winners once runner up.

 

Germany 2 times winners 3 times runner up.

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And Leverkusen could very easily knock out the Spanish champions. Never really understood how European results considering they are by all rights cup games are indicative of league strength.

 

Monaco and Besiktas are about to knock out two English teams, are the Turkish and french league great now?  European results never have been indicative of league strength and it never will, because it's a cup and the league is well a league.

 

Even when everyone agreed England was the best the teams outside the top 4 were shite, Villa were probably the best and their best player was Ashley fucking Young.

 

Didn't mean to ramble on here, but seeing everytime a team loses means a particular league sucks is kinda a pet peeve of mine as it's completely irrelevant.

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Best league in the world. So that's potentially only Chelsea left (who themselves were worse than PSG in the first leg and will have problems if they don't up themselves) and Everton who got an easy tie.

 

3 winners and 5 runners up in the last 10 years isn't bad.  :undecided:

 

Spain 4 times winners once runner up.

 

Italy 2 times winners once runner up.

 

Germany 2 times winners 3 times runner up.

 

Spain are much more successful in terms of Europa League too as well. ;) :p

 

And Leverkusen could very easily knock out the Spanish champions. Never really understood how European results considering they are by all rights cup games are indicative of league strength.

 

Monaco and Besiktas are about to knock out two English teams, are the Turkish and french league great now?  European results never have been indicative of league strength and it never will, because it's a cup and the league is well a league.

 

Even when everyone agreed England was the best the teams outside the top 4 were s****, Villa were probably the best and their best player was Ashley f***ing Young.

 

Didn't mean to ramble on here, but seeing everytime a team loses means a particular league sucks is kinda a pet peeve of mine as it's completely irrelevant.

 

PL still isn't the best league in the world. Level has fallen every year for the past 5 years or so. That Chelsea side that won the CL was never even close to the Man U side that lost to Barcelona in the finals couple years earlier.

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Best league in the world. So that's potentially only Chelsea left (who themselves were worse than PSG in the first leg and will have problems if they don't up themselves) and Everton who got an easy tie.

 

3 winners and 5 runners up in the last 10 years isn't bad.  :undecided:

 

Spain 4 times winners once runner up.

 

Italy 2 times winners once runner up.

 

Germany 2 times winners 3 times runner up.

 

Spain are much more successful in terms of Europa League too as well. ;) :p

 

And Leverkusen could very easily knock out the Spanish champions. Never really understood how European results considering they are by all rights cup games are indicative of league strength.

 

Monaco and Besiktas are about to knock out two English teams, are the Turkish and french league great now?  European results never have been indicative of league strength and it never will, because it's a cup and the league is well a league.

 

Even when everyone agreed England was the best the teams outside the top 4 were s****, Villa were probably the best and their best player was Ashley f***ing Young.

 

Didn't mean to ramble on here, but seeing everytime a team loses means a particular league sucks is kinda a pet peeve of mine as it's completely irrelevant.

 

PL still isn't the best league in the world. Level has fallen every year for the past 5 years or so. That Chelsea side that won the CL was never even close to the Man U side that lost to Barcelona in the finals couple years earlier.

 

Tbh I was shocked english teams have done so well in the last decade, I pretty much think they are shite in the CL, usually outclassed technically and tactically.

 

Europa man, it's, well, the Europa  :lol: I love it when we're in it, but it's pretty pointless when you're not.

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Europa man, it's, well, the Europa  :lol: I love it when we're in it, but it's pretty pointless when you're not.

 

How is it pointless?

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Europa man, it's, well, the Europa  :lol: I love it when we're in it, but it's pretty pointless when you're not.

 

How is it pointless?

 

Most teams either treat it as a consolation, a distraction, or a hinderance. It means the effort and quality is all over the place...bit like the league cup. It's certainly not a measurement of a team, it's too unpredictable. Of course you'll say that's a good thing, maybe it is for some but it's cheapened by the teams that don't want to be in it and it won't change until CL teams don't drop in for 3rd place and goes back to knockout right the way through.

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Europa man, it's, well, the Europa  :lol: I love it when we're in it, but it's pretty pointless when you're not.

 

How is it pointless?

 

Most teams either treat it as a consolation, a distraction, or a hinderance. It means the effort and quality is all over the place...bit like the league cup. It's certainly not a measurement of a team, it's too unpredictable. Of course you'll say that's a good thing, maybe it is for some but it's cheapened by the teams that don't want to be in it and it won't change until CL teams don't drop in for 3rd place and goes back to knockout right the way through.

 

It's a lot more important now that CL qualification is guaranteed by winning it.

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