Willow Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 where would cabella or grenier play? would cabella play on the wing and/or grenier play central? getting de jong means only 1 of these is still a possibility I'd imagine, and it'd be more likely to be cabella though it'd make our midfield complex in terms of who to play where, granted I'd always take more players than less gouff/hba anita/tiote colback/de jong cabella/sissoko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 We won't go for Grenier anymore IMO. Cabella definitely plays out wide a lot, and has the pace, trickery and delivery for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 These 5/6 year deals are stupid. End Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I am delighted that we have managed to sign a player, but the reports I have read seem to indicate that he isn't particularly technically gifted or a 'creator' of chances in the Cabaye mould. Can someone who watches him regularly confirm what he is like? Is there a player more widely known who he could be likened to? Almost feel we needed a player like Cabella more? Being technically limited might be a plus in a Pardew side, he's an attacking midfielder who looks for goals, and as long as he hasn't got two left feet he should be able to fit into most systems. We do need midfielders who get into the box, it's just a case of how the team is set up in general whether we get to see him being effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 These 5/6 year deals are stupid. End Surely the though behind them is they put us in a stronger position in 3 years if he performs well and we want to sell for a big fee? He'd still have 3 years left on his deal rather than 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Interviewed on NUFC TV, this is what Siem De Jong had to say; “The last three years we talked to Newcastle, that was important (Newcastle’s longstanding interest), it was also good for me that the manager is still here. “I spoke to him (Alan Pardew) once and Luuk also told me all about him, plus he spoke to our manager a couple of times. “I have a feeling he is an honest trainer and I hope we have a good couple of years. “Luuk has said that Newcastle is a great club, a great atmosphere in a great stadium. “He said it is a big club in the world and he hopes that one day he comes back, maybe with me, so we will see.” Three years?! My goodness ... well it looks like the monitoring over long periods at least flatters the players some. Honest trainer huh ... well, let's see if you still feel that way when Colback keeps getting in the team ahead of Vurn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Actually, surprised he hasn't said anything about Anita yet ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I am delighted that we have managed to sign a player, but the reports I have read seem to indicate that he isn't particularly technically gifted or a 'creator' of chances in the Cabaye mould. Can someone who watches him regularly confirm what he is like? Is there a player more widely known who he could be likened to? Almost feel we needed a player like Cabella more? My Ajax supporting mate reckons he's a bit like a Dutch Kevin Nolan. Quite static at times. I'm pleased with the signing, but I hope he's not seen as the player to 'replace' Cabaye in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He is 25 now, so will be 28 and at his peak in 3 years time, which will be ideal for us to make good money on him if he does perform well for us. Depressing situation when your own club make you think like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 These 5/6 year deals are stupid. End Why? It's a risk in terms of injuries mainly. You want your better players on longer deals, but with new signings it doesn't always work out. I'd have said 4 would have been fine for a £6m signing, but Ashley has a phobia of letting players go on the cheap or free, and he knows if the player plays well, when it comes to contract renewal time they'll demand a payrise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Actually, surprised he hasn't said anything about Anita yet ... Siem de Jong: "Alan Pardew made me feel wanted. He's been trying to get me for the past year. Krul and Anita had a part to play, too!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Actually, surprised he hasn't said anything about Anita yet ... Siem de Jong: "Alan Pardew made me feel wanted. He's been trying to get me for the past year. Krul and Anita had a part to play, too!" Ah, cool. Really worried about Anita's place in the team next season, because of that Colback thing. Colback has played out wide too right? I would rather he replaced Gouffran than Anita in the team if anything. We'll need Anita linking up with Siem from midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Actually, surprised he hasn't said anything about Anita yet ... Siem de Jong: "Alan Pardew made me feel wanted. He's been trying to get me for the past year. Krul and Anita had a part to play, too!" Ah, cool. Really worried about Anita's place in the team next season, because of that Colback thing. Colback has played out wide too right? I would rather he replaced Gouffran than Anita in the team if anything. We'll need Anita linking up with Siem from midfield. I wasn't worried about Anita till about 30 seconds ago. Now I'm worried. For what it's worth I can't see Colback being much more than a utility player or a back up. I don't think he was as much of a target as he was free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I am delighted that we have managed to sign a player, but the reports I have read seem to indicate that he isn't particularly technically gifted or a 'creator' of chances in the Cabaye mould. Can someone who watches him regularly confirm what he is like? Is there a player more widely known who he could be likened to? Almost feel we needed a player like Cabella more? My Ajax supporting mate reckons he's a bit like a Dutch Kevin Nolan. Quite static at times. I'm pleased with the signing, but I hope he's not seen as the player to 'replace' Cabaye in the middle. The comparison to Nolan is interesting. He does look more of a goal scorer form that "number 10" position, and not sure I've seen too much of him threading killer balls through, although he'll likely use the ball well in there, just not sure how creative he'll be passing it forward. However, I'm pretty confident he will bring much more movement and presence outside the box than Nolan, though he certainly isn't super athletic, but then again neither was Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Actually, surprised he hasn't said anything about Anita yet ... Siem de Jong: "Alan Pardew made me feel wanted. He's been trying to get me for the past year. Krul and Anita had a part to play, too!" Ah, cool. Really worried about Anita's place in the team next season, because of that Colback thing. Colback has played out wide too right? I would rather he replaced Gouffran than Anita in the team if anything. We'll need Anita linking up with Siem from midfield. I wasn't worried about Anita till about 30 seconds ago. Now I'm worried. For what it's worth I can't see Colback being much more than a utility player or a back up. I don't think he was as much of a target as he was free. You can't see it, I can't see it, anyone with any semblance of intelligence or morality can't see it, but then there is Alan Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 These 5/6 year deals are stupid. End Why? It's a risk in terms of injuries mainly. You want your better players on longer deals, but with new signings it doesn't always work out. I'd have said 4 would have been fine for a £6m signing, but Ashley has a phobia of letting players go on the cheap or free, and he knows if the player plays well, when it comes to contract renewal time they'll demand a payrise. Yeah, it's a risk but how often does a player fail to get a new contract because of injury? Extremely rarely. As you say it's just a device to ensure that anyone buying these players has to pay full whack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 These 5/6 year deals are stupid. End I agree but from Ashley's perspective it sort of makes sense. If the signing's a success ala Ba, Cabaye then the club stands to make a healthier profit if the player's tied to a longer contract. If, as seems to be the norm these days, the signings under-perform or outright bomb then at least Ashley can hope that another club will take a punt on the basis of the player's reputation, in which case the lengthy contract will surely push the fee up a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Still shocked we signed a player, like, not a loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaron Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 permanent signing with Fee involved? http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/is-this-real-life.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He may be good, may be shite. Sadly with Pardew in charge more than likely he'll be played out of position, trained wrong and appear shit rather than grow as a player. The likes of Ben Arfa, Marveux, Cisse,, Sissoko and Santon have all proved that Pardew ruins great players with his mismanagement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Marveaux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 These 5/6 year deals are stupid. End I agree but from Ashley's perspective it sort of makes sense. If the signing's a success ala Ba, Cabaye then the club stands to make a healthier profit if the player's tied to a longer contract. If, as seems to be the norm these days, the signings under-perform or outright bomb then at least Ashley can hope that another club will take a punt on the basis of the player's reputation, in which case the lengthy contract will surely push the fee up a bit more. Aye, should still be able to get decent money if he flops in a few years anyway. Unless he's Sylvain Marveaux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 When they stated 6 year deals are for long term stability, it's bollocks. It's for maximising resale value, arseholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The fact that he's only excited about the next 'couple of years' rather than the full duration of his contract says quite a lot imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 eh? I think that's generally just what people say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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