Kanj Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Kroos was absolutely sublime last night, was like watching a really old school number 10 at times, fabulous awareness and vision and with a range of passing and shooting off both feet to compliment it. In future teams does Gundogan slot in behind him in Bastian/Sami spot in their 11 when fit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 :lol: that's class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 What are peoples thoughts on David Luiz then? He has always had his critics defensivesly and his defensive faults were certainly on show to the world last night... Can't see ever stepping up to be a top class CB to be honest and I don't think he even wants to play there.. DM maybe another matter however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 What are peoples thoughts on David Luiz then? He has always had his critics defensivesly and his defensive faults were certainly on show to the world last night... Can't see ever stepping up to be a top class CB to be honest and I don't think he even wants to play there.. DM maybe another matter however. Physically and technically he has all the attributes to be a top top player. Mentally, a dung beetle with commitment issues is more suited to playing football at this level than he is at the moment. He still has plenty of time to mature and be coached in the right way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 We don't need arial strength tonight, we need pace on the break. True but RvP wouldn't offer that either. My thinking was I think Argentina are very susceptible to a set piece and will be liable to concede a lot of FKs in the middle/final third. If fit Van persie will no doubt play. My point was if he isn't, it's not a given that Huntelaar will replace him. Could be Lens or Depay again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Firmly behind the Netherlands now, it'll be cagey tonight as I think they've been a little rocky in the qualifying stages, I just hope they can beat the Germans in the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/av0393n_460sa_v8.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Wait had no idea RVP was unfit for this? What is the injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 And Unbe man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 What are peoples thoughts on David Luiz then? He has always had his critics defensivesly and his defensive faults were certainly on show to the world last night... Can't see ever stepping up to be a top class CB to be honest and I don't think he even wants to play there.. DM maybe another matter however. I still think he's a really good player, but he needs to be alongside an out and out defender like Thiago Siva or Terry. He's had a decent tournament until yesterday, and Brazil were a shambles as a team yesterday, it wasn't just about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 We don't need arial strength tonight, we need pace on the break. True but RvP wouldn't offer that either. My thinking was I think Argentina are very susceptible to a set piece and will be liable to concede a lot of FKs in the middle/final third. While true I'm with Unbelievable on this, playing Huntelaar plays straight into Argentina's strengths. Garay and Demichelis would love to see an old fashioned 9 they can mark and go to battle with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 How do Germany almost always manage to play like a proper team? As though they play and train with each other week in week out? Bayern M. Is any other country's team selected so heavily from one club? I can't think of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 How do Germany almost always manage to play like a proper team? As though they play and train with each other week in week out? Bayern M. Is any other country's team selected so heavily from one club? I can't think of one. Spain at their best was basically Barca and a few Madrid players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 How do Germany almost always manage to play like a proper team? As though they play and train with each other week in week out? Bayern M. Is any other country's team selected so heavily from one club? I can't think of one. England - Liverpool. Unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 What are peoples thoughts on David Luiz then? He has always had his critics defensivesly and his defensive faults were certainly on show to the world last night... Can't see ever stepping up to be a top class CB to be honest and I don't think he even wants to play there.. DM maybe another matter however. I still think he's a really good player, but he needs to be alongside an out and out defender like Thiago Siva or Terry. He's had a decent tournament until yesterday, and Brazil were a shambles as a team yesterday, it wasn't just about him. We should have tried to sign him, imagine the coronary that kind of play would induce on 1 player past the half way line Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 How do Germany almost always manage to play like a proper team? As though they play and train with each other week in week out? Bayern M. Mostly this. It helps that they take the national side seriously in Germany. They really shook things up after the humiliation in 2000, and the DFB (German FA) isn't beholden to the league, like in England, and has much better support from most clubs. Also, Löw has been in the job for about 10 years, with a constant core of players experienced in his system, so there's some real consistency there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/06/08/magazine/world-cup-curse-of-maracana.html?smid=tw-nytimes This is cool. It has animation and sound too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I still can't believe last night, 7-1 ffs, in a World Cup semi-final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Love Flip trying to claw himself to moral high ground. "Well...well...we don't riot!!" Only jesting of course, but it's still funny. I stood up together with a majority of the stadium to applaud a 7th goal, Klose being subbed off and a national team that had just gone into the history books for all the wrong reasons in probably the darkest day of Brazilian football. It has nothing to do with moral high ground or whatever you think and all down to do with the fact that a big part of this country has shown the world that all their pre-conceived ideas are wrong. Also, people saying this is the end of Brazilian football comparing a 200 million populated country to the island of yours. We are the biggest nation in footballing history, between our third win and 4th win it went 24 years, we will have some great players maturing for Russia and there's no doubt in my mind that we'll win it. As for the Neymar, I don't see what's wrong with holding a shirt of an injured player? This squad has been known for being extremely close (except in midfield where they apparently play like there's 200miles between each other) and Neymar was a big part of the team. He carried us past the group stage and without an injury against Chile we would've seen the best of him in the quarter finals and semi finals. We'll be back, just like Germany once disappeared and came back and just like Italy does every 24 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 How do Germany almost always manage to play like a proper team? As though they play and train with each other week in week out? Bayern M. Mostly this. It helps that they take the national side seriously in Germany. They really shook things up after the humiliation in 2000, and the DFB (German FA) isn't beholden to the league, like in England, and has much better support from most clubs. Also, Löw has been in the job for about 10 years, with a constant core of players experienced in his system, so there's some real consistency there. Played through the youth team together this core of players too which helps. 6 of the team playing last night started the 2009 u21 final. In contrast 1 of the England team they played in the final made the England squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 not a fucking fred avatar. Get me that Hitler Yao back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Love Flip trying to claw himself to moral high ground. "Well...well...we don't riot!!" Only jesting of course, but it's still funny. I stood up together with a majority of the stadium to applaud a 7th goal, Klose being subbed off and a national team that had just gone into the history books for all the wrong reasons in probably the darkest day of Brazilian football. It has nothing to do with moral high ground or whatever you think and all down to do with the fact that a big part of this country has shown the world that all their pre-conceived ideas are wrong. Also, people saying this is the end of Brazilian football comparing a 200 million populated country to the island of yours. We are the biggest nation in footballing history, between our third win and 4th win it went 24 years, we will have some great players maturing for Russia and there's no doubt in my mind that we'll win it. As for the Neymar, I don't see what's wrong with holding a shirt of an injured player? This squad has been known for being extremely close (except in midfield where they apparently play like there's 200miles between each other) and Neymar was a big part of the team. He carried us past the group stage and without an injury against Chile we would've seen the best of him in the quarter finals and semi finals. We'll be back, just like Germany once disappeared and came back and just like Italy does every 24 years. If he was dead it'd be okay. What they're doing now is just telling the world that Neymar is much bigger than the team and more important than the 11 out there at that time. He might just be, but the players shouldn't tell the world they agree. It's well worthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 ok now explain how 'The Best Centre Back In The World'TM gets himself suspended in such a manner for a World Cup semi final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Love Flip trying to claw himself to moral high ground. "Well...well...we don't riot!!" Only jesting of course, but it's still funny. I stood up together with a majority of the stadium to applaud a 7th goal, Klose being subbed off and a national team that had just gone into the history books for all the wrong reasons in probably the darkest day of Brazilian football. It has nothing to do with moral high ground or whatever you think and all down to do with the fact that a big part of this country has shown the world that all their pre-conceived ideas are wrong. Also, people saying this is the end of Brazilian football comparing a 200 million populated country to the island of yours. We are the biggest nation in footballing history, between our third win and 4th win it went 24 years, we will have some great players maturing for Russia and there's no doubt in my mind that we'll win it. Why are you so sure that you'll win that? You need to find two new midfielders,a striker,a right back and probably one attacking midfielder/winger before then and Germany will still have the majority of their team along with a few other teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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