Hanshithispantz Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Best is the best greatest striker we've had since Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I don't think Best is better than any of our current forwards TBH, athough now it would be handy to have someone a bit experienced and with a goal in them since De Jong and Cisse are missing. Rivière hasn't done anything for us yet obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Best was significantly better than Riviere has shown like. At least he went through a period of actually being useful for us. Unless there's a lot more to Riviere than he's shown it'll stay that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Well, here's his chance to prove us all wrong. He probably works best as a support striker to someone like Cisse. Not sure how he'll link up with Perez. Unless Carver shunts Perez out on the left wing and leaves Riv to lead the line You know this is happening, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think Best is overrated as f*** on here like. I think he's underrated by you, man. He did his fucking job and he did it pretty damn well after his initial awfulness. Ba owes him a ton for doing a ton of his dirty work for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Best was significantly better than Riviere has shown like. At least he went through a period of actually being useful for us. Unless there's a lot more to Riviere than he's shown it'll stay that way. Naw man, Best was an unsexy option that people always wanted upgraded, well, we never replaced him and throw in Adam Armstrong now and then. Awful all around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Best looked really good for goals until he was warned that his first priority was supporting Demba B. Demba looked absolutely brilliant with Best doing the donkey work in front of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Just checked his record - the 10 goals he scored for us were the only Premier League goals of Leon Best's career. Other than that he averages around 1 in 5 at Championship and League One level. Riviere in his best season scored 13 in 36 for Monaco in Ligue 1, you would have to think his top level is better than Leon's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Best had an excellent 2011, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 He scored a premier league hat-trick for us. I can never see Riviere getting a brace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Just checked his record - the 10 goals he scored for us were the only Premier League goals of Leon Best's career. Other than that he averages around 1 in 5 at Championship and League One level. Riviere in his best season scored 13 in 36 for Monaco in Ligue 1, you would have to think his top level is better than Leon's. Based on scoring 13 goals in a season in the French league? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Not sure anyone can debate this. It's quite clear he is crap and we have been sold a pup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Just checked his record - the 10 goals he scored for us were the only Premier League goals of Leon Best's career. Other than that he averages around 1 in 5 at Championship and League One level. Riviere in his best season scored 13 in 36 for Monaco in Ligue 1, you would have to think his top level is better than Leon's. Based on scoring 13 goals in a season in the French league? No. He had a freak year. Like Yorkie said, 2011 he was good. 10 in 30 games. Other than that, he's been a 1 in 5 striker at Championship & League One level (31 in 152). Riviere's career mightn't pan out here, but I bet he has a far better career than Best. Already has tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 We were the only team who've been able to give him a chance in the Premiership and he was completely fine. Nothing to suggest it was a freak year, even without the goals he was a decent and mobile body up top. He unfortunately had a nasty injury going to Blackburn and we'll probably never see him at the top again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Best's link up play and ability in the air was far superior than Rivière's though. He was a superb foil for Demba and would be for Cisse now. What I'd give for a striker who could control the ball, hold off a defender and bring someone into play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Best's link up play and ability in the air was far superior than Rivière's though. He was a superb foil for Demba and would be for Cisse now. What I'd give for a striker who could control the ball, hold off a defender and bring someone into play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 He scored 40 goals in 157 appearances in France. So far he has 0 in 15 for us. It's quite clear he's rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Where's marlon harewood these days when he's not busy getting felched by Ronaldo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hartlepool May as well bring back Pancrate while we're at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hartlepool May as well bring back Pancrate while we're at it if only for the song: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Leon Best was a solid Premiership striker for us. Simple. Riviere so far, hasn't. As such it's fair people are moaning we spent money on someone not even as good for us as Leon Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Leon Best was a solid Premiership striker for us. Simple. Riviere so far, hasn't. As such it's fair people are moaning we spent money on someone not even as good for us as Leon Best. just looked at bests clubs and stats since leaving us, guess that injury effectively ended him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 All I can say about him is I'd rather have him in my team than Shola or LDJ. He's willing which is the minimum requirement when not actually scoring. He's got his chance now so let's see if a run of games helps him. Best looked out of his depth also for the early part of his career here then something seemed to click once he got his first goal and performance wise he rarely looked back in his remaining games. Let's hope for something similar with this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Newcastle United head coach John Carver has launched a staunch defence of struggling striker Manu Riviere ahead of the trip to Everton. The former Monaco man has not scored a single Premier League goal for the Magpies since arriving from Ligue 1 and has been branded a flop by some observers. Papiss Cisse’s seven-game suspension means that Riviere will get an enforced run in the side. Carver said he will defend Riviere “because he’s one of my players”. “Listen the one thing about Manu Riviere is he works his socks off,” Carver said. “He keeps getting on the end of things. He keeps getting into the right areas and I’m telling you before time it will come off. “Let’s judge him at the end of the season or six months time when he has had the time to adjust. This is the first time he’s had a run in the team. He is having a right go at it.” Carver knows that a striker’s main currency is goals though, and added: “He’s got to convert chances. I just think it takes a little bit longer for guys outside of this country longer.” Carver says that Riviere is not alone in struggling to cope with life at St James’ Park. Remy Cabella has had ups and downs while Siem De Jong has been unlucky with injuries. Carver said: “I think out of every player we have brought in only Daryl Janmaat has hit the ground running. “Daryl came in from Dutch football and hit the ground running. “There’s players in the past that have taken a lot longer. I remember when Yohan Cabaye first came here, Yoan Gouffran – a lot of players have taken time to adapt. “If you ask any manager in the Premier League they will say the same thing in that not many come in straight away and hit the ground running. “It is a different demand. It’s the demands more than anything else.” With Cisse out, Newcastle’s next highest scorer is Ayoze Perez with five goals. Carver admitted it has been tough for Riviere to see a younger player break his Premier League duck before him. Carver said: “Ayo (Perez) is younger and we paid a decent transfer fee for Manu. He had that on his head. Sometimes it can knock confidence. “But from day one he (Riviere) has been fantastic. If he keeps going the way he’s going it’s got to turn for him. I believe it will turn for him.” “Listen the one thing about Manu Riviere is he works his socks off,” Carver said. http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bbet.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Even his examples are crap, Cabaye was quality from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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