ads Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 On top of that, he's got something to prove himself after Man United. I'd be delighted with Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Newcastle scored more goals than Everton in 2 of the 3 seasons (under Moyes) since we were promoted. Seems they didn't score too many but didn't concede many either. Sounds like great fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's a myth that Everton didn't play attractive football under Moyes. They most certainly did. Oh they certainly did latterly, no disputing that. But as I said it took them a long time to get to that stage and his Myoo days were not good. Better squad should equate to better football, or is that too simplistic? It took him 1 year to get them to 7th and 3 years to finish 4th. You've done it again, twisted the meaning. I was talking about the attractiveness of the football. 7th was ground out, much like our 5th. I'll repeat, I said I was NERVOUS. Not 'I don't want that twat near our club'. He's definitely a massive improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Would be delighted with Moyes, but would rather we looked abroad to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's a myth that Everton didn't play attractive football under Moyes. They most certainly did. Unfortunately it's also a myth that he had no money to spend there. They also kept hold of the core of their best team for ages. That said, I'd still love to have him replace Pardew. Clear upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 fellaini in January too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Aye, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's a myth that Everton didn't play attractive football under Moyes. They most certainly did. Oh they certainly did latterly, no disputing that. But as I said it took them a long time to get to that stage and his Myoo days were not good. Better squad should equate to better football, or is that too simplistic? It took him 1 year to get them to 7th and 3 years to finish 4th. You've done it again, twisted the meaning. I was talking about the attractiveness of the football. 7th was ground out, much like our 5th. I'll repeat, I said I was NERVOUS. Not 'I don't want that twat near our club'. He's definitely a massive improvement. You said it took him '6 years to get Everton going' and that you weren't convinced he'd 'do any better'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's a myth that Everton didn't play attractive football under Moyes. They most certainly did. Unfortunately it's also a myth that he had no money to spend there. They also kept hold of the core of their best team for ages. That said, I'd still love to have him replace Pardew. Clear upgrade. It'd be like upgrading a Nokia 3210 for an iPhone 5. I'm pretty sure Everton made a transfer profit with him there, too. Anyway, waste of time discussing it. I think he's out of our league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Moyes would be fantastic but would he want to work with Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's a myth that Everton didn't play attractive football under Moyes. They most certainly did. Unfortunately it's also a myth that he had no money to spend there. They also kept hold of the core of their best team for ages. That said, I'd still love to have him replace Pardew. Clear upgrade. It'd be like upgrading a Nokia 3210 for an iPhone 5. I'm pretty sure Everton made a transfer profit with him there, too. Anyway, waste of time discussing it. I think he's out of our league. Yep can't see us paying the wages. More likely to be some championship manager given a lucky break and who will fail as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'd welcome Moyes with open arms. Always enjoyed watching them when they came up here. I'd hope he'd get back to the miserable horrible scot he was at Everton rather than the smiley friendly Moyes he was at Manyoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Can't see Ashley going for Moyes tbh. I think it's more likely he'll look for another low reputation bullshitter-type, like Pardew. Sherwood fits the bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I hate Lennon at Celtic, but since listening at the world cup and some of the stuff he said on 5live last night on Pardew he made some interesting points, also absolutely slated the Cabaye excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simba Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Jesus lads. Anyone turning their nose up at Moyes after suffering this long under Pardew needs their head checking. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'd like Moyes, but my preference for a while have been for a foreign manager to come in. Anyway, came across this garbage from a journalist (Rob Stewart): @mattholland8 Agreed. Hope Ashley sticks with him + Pardew sticks at it to prove doubters wrong cos there's a fine coach + manager in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yeah that Rob Stewart guy wrote an article on FourFourTwo yesterday saying we shouldn't sack him. His defense was basically that Pardew has no say over the players coming in to the club and that this isn't "his team". Pretty much blames Ashley and Graham Carr for our predicament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 We need to bombard Pro-Pardew pieces with this link off the SackPardew: http://sackpardew.com/myths/his-hands-are-tied-by-ashley/ Proves that it is complete rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yeah that Rob Stewart guy wrote an article on FourFourTwo yesterday saying we shouldn't sack him. His defense was basically that Pardew has no say over the players coming in to the club and that this isn't "his team". Pretty much blames Ashley and Graham Carr for our predicament. Such a bizarre argument. By that logic he can literally never be held accountable for results. If he's unable to work to a reasonable standard under a system that isn't going away, that's more reason to get rid rather than keep. People in England really struggle with the idea of a Director of Football system despite it being the norm, even at some English clubs. Personally I prefer the manager to have a lot more say but not if he's Alan Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Pardew's first and last real move in the transfer market was to sell Wayne Routledge and replace him with Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yeah that Rob Stewart guy wrote an article on FourFourTwo yesterday saying we shouldn't sack him. His defense was basically that Pardew has no say over the players coming in to the club and that this isn't "his team". Pretty much blames Ashley and Graham Carr for our predicament. Such a bizarre argument. By that logic he can literally never be held accountable for results. If he's unable to work to a reasonable standard under a system that isn't going away, that's more reason to get rid rather than keep. People in England really struggle with the idea of a Director of Football system despite it being the norm, even at some English clubs. Personally I prefer the manager to have a lot more say but not if he's Alan Pardew. Nailed it. At no club does the manager have 100% control anyway- they all work to a budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's a bloody good thing he doesn't control transfers too! Sorry I'd much rather have Graham, "I brought Cabaye, Ben Arfa and all those players Pardew relied on to win matches" to the club rather than Alan, "Mullins is superb and Ameobi is as good as Tevez" Pardew. Journalists completely useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's a bloody good thing he doesn't control transfers too! Sorry I'd much rather have Graham, "I brought Cabaye, Ben Arfa and all those players Pardew relied on to win matches" to the club rather than Alan, "Mullins is superb and Ameobi is as good as Tevez" Pardew. Journalists completely useless. Exactly - it works both ways. Not a chance that Pardew would have brought Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse et al to the club if he had complete control over transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yeah that Rob Stewart guy wrote an article on FourFourTwo yesterday saying we shouldn't sack him. His defense was basically that Pardew has no say over the players coming in to the club and that this isn't "his team". Pretty much blames Ashley and Graham Carr for our predicament. Such a bizarre argument. By that logic he can literally never be held accountable for results. If he's unable to work to a reasonable standard under a system that isn't going away, that's more reason to get rid rather than keep. People in England really struggle with the idea of a Director of Football system despite it being the norm, even at some English clubs. Personally I prefer the manager to have a lot more say but not if he's Alan Pardew. Thought the exact same thing when I read it. It's like, ok, when does it become acceptable to start criticizing him then? How many more bad results, how much worse does it have to get before we can say maybe he just isn't good enough? As you say, it absolves him of any blame and essentially gives him the best job in the world because he can never be held accountable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I would be over the moon with moyes but I doubt he would come here under Ashley. All the people who say otherwise come back on here and see if you change your mind after Ashley hires some twat like lawrie Sanchez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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