Guest ElCid Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Of course Ashley cares about getting relegated man. The reason above all else he continues to own us is because we are a premier league club which is a great advertisement for his crappy shops. If we get relegated that all disappears, so does the ridiculous TV money which allows him to spend f*** all. At the moment we are one win from safety so he's not shitting it yet but it won't be long till it does. Disagree he done exactly the same thing with his stupid senseless decisions in the 2008-09 season and look where that ended. Bloke either just doesn't give a shit or is just totally clueless about football - either way there is serious serious problems and this team will struggle to score goals and not concede with the players in those positions until big bucks needing to be spent in January. This bloke should have been sacked two year ago and the longer it goes on the near certainty of relegation will get closer. A new manager will get more points on the board to keep us in the running but if the money is not spent in January this team is going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Can I post up a predicted league table for the end of the season here, or will it break some rule? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 This is the guy who appointed Kinnear, would not sack him until he almost dropped dead, said the job was waiting for him if he wanted to come back after relegation, and then brought him back to the club as dof years later. Ashley is a disgusting combination of pig headed and fiercely loyal to his mates. Pardew will never be sacked for results. The only thing that can get him out is some sort of personal falling out with Ashley. Wise, Kinnear and Llambias were all mates with Ashley but ultimately they got the boot. Pardew is incapable of keeping us clear of relegation trouble so he WILL be sacked before Christmas. Probably this month at some point. I wouldn't be surprised if Kinnear just decided to pack it in because of his health and Llambias left because he disagreed with Ashley on how to run the club. Don't really remember the circumstances behind Wise's departure. Was announced hours before Shearer was announced interim manager in the relegation season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-set-talks-over-7855420 Alan Pardew is preparing to take charge of Newcastle United for this weekend’s game with Swansea City. The Toon boss is set to hold talks with Mike Ashley this week over his future. But United aren’t likely to make any knee-jerk reaction to the 1-0 loss against Stoke City last night. Knee jerk reaction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 This is the guy who appointed Kinnear, would not sack him until he almost dropped dead, said the job was waiting for him if he wanted to come back after relegation, and then brought him back to the club as dof years later. Ashley is a disgusting combination of pig headed and fiercely loyal to his mates. Pardew will never be sacked for results. The only thing that can get him out is some sort of personal falling out with Ashley. Wise, Kinnear and Llambias were all mates with Ashley but ultimately they got the boot. Pardew is incapable of keeping us clear of relegation trouble so he WILL be sacked before Christmas. Probably this month at some point. I wouldn't be surprised if Kinnear just decided to pack it in because of his health and Llambias left because he disagreed with Ashley on how to run the club. Don't really remember the circumstances behind Wise's departure. Was announced hours before Shearer was announced interim manager in the relegation season. I guess it was one of Shearer's conditions for taking the job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-set-talks-over-7855420 Alan Pardew is preparing to take charge of Newcastle United for this weekend’s game with Swansea City. The Toon boss is set to hold talks with Mike Ashley this week over his future. But United aren’t likely to make any knee-jerk reaction to the 1-0 loss against Stoke City last night. Knee jerk reaction That has to be a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 “Stoke defend very, very well. They get their midfield in tight to their back four. And make it very difficult for you. “We didn’t get the answer tonight.” And asked what the answers actually were he went on: “We just need a little bit of something in that final area.“Somebody that will take someone on to beat someone to create the moment. This guy is just unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We're all setting ourselves up for crushing disappointment How prophetic in light of the clubs 'sources' comments today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We're all setting ourselves up for crushing disappointment How prophetic in light of the clubs 'sources' comments today. You just always assume the worst thing possible about this regime. It's always right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-set-talks-over-7855420 Alan Pardew is preparing to take charge of Newcastle United for this weekend’s game with Swansea City. The Toon boss is set to hold talks with Mike Ashley this week over his future. But United aren’t likely to make any knee-jerk reaction to the 1-0 loss against Stoke City last night. Knee jerk reaction Knee jerk . Have they even looked at his form? His 38 game season length form is horrideous. I don't know how he keeps getting away with it. I did the league predictor, based on Pardew still being here and I have us staying up just. I tried to be very honest. I included some absolutely hammerings we'll take, wasn't optimistic and gave us the customary double defeat to Sunderland. I gave us some wins against terrible sides but not many. Somehow though that wasn't enough for us to be down on my predictions, basically because the league is so terrible. Somehow the slimey fucker is going to survive this and he'll be fist pumping as he survives and tells us it'll be okay after another window. I have us finishing 16th on 33 points, with us being in the relegation zone all the way to the final few games. So the future is pretty bleak however it goes as far as I can see. If things change it can brighten, but it looks like Ashley is perfectly content to risk it. In my predictions Crystal Palace, Burnley and QPR go down. Obviously predictions are pretty meaningless, but it's just as far as I look down the road, I don't see a way out of this relegation battle. I'm only surprised my predictions had us escaping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 33 points doesn't sound enough to be 16th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 33 points is wildly optimistic for safety. At least 37, I would think. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 When Hughton got sacked it wasn't an instant action in that there came a point where Ashley went to Pardew behind Hughton's back. Trying to be optimistic, the same could be happening again, although I'm not a big fan of that approach as many managers worth anything would not go behind another fellow pros back. Suspect Ashley considers Keegan resigning and difficulty in finding a replacement as a reason for the last relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Extrapolating our form from the first six games over the remainder of the season, we'll finish with 19 points total Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 When Hughton got sacked it wasn't an instant action in that there came a point where Ashley went to Pardew behind Hughton's back. Trying to be optimistic, the same could be happening again, although I'm not a big fan of that approach as many managers worth anything would not go behind another fellow pros back. Suspect Ashley considers Keegan resigning and difficulty in finding a replacement as a reason for the last relegation. The problem with this theory, ie Ashley wanting to sack him but waiting till the time is right to get an immediate replacement, is that its so obvious to anyone that having no manager would be better than having Pardew. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Ashley is happy to see us being shit, I think 17th would do him fine each and every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 33 points doesn't sound enough to be 16th. It isn't, but predictors always end up top heavy. You just can't logically predict a shock Burnley win at Man City, or whatever. You also get a lot of random results when Europe is on and when relegation threatened sides realise they're almost down and fight harder. I've just predicted the most obvious result in each game and seen where it falls based on what I'd normally expect. The main thing to note from it, is that at no point were we ever away from the relegation zone. We never have a run where it looks like we'll get a few wins in a row. It can be vastly different to that, but with Pardew in charge I doubt it. Also I remember the season we went down, 35 points would have been enough to stay up, so it could be another season like that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 When Hughton got sacked it wasn't an instant action in that there came a point where Ashley went to Pardew behind Hughton's back. Trying to be optimistic, the same could be happening again, although I'm not a big fan of that approach as many managers worth anything would not go behind another fellow pros back. Suspect Ashley considers Keegan resigning and difficulty in finding a replacement as a reason for the last relegation. I don't have a problem with lining up a replacement once you know it's over for the man in charge. It's sensible to make the transition as quick as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Durham rinsing him on talksport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Durham rinsing him on talksport That first caller Up to a couple of weeks ago I would have been convinced he was a troll but having seen the Hull game i think most newcastle fans are getting everything they deserve right now. It seems this place and sackpardew.com are the sane minority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't bet really, but I went on Oddschecker. The odds just changed from 6 to 2.5 in front of my eyes at all the sites basically. Probably just a coincidence, but I'd love to think they know something we don't. He's at least the very strong favourite to be the next manager gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Can I post up a predicted league table for the end of the season here, or will it break some rule? Gan for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Durham rinsing him on talksport That first caller Up to a couple of weeks ago I would have been convinced he was a troll but having seen the Hull game i think most newcastle fans are getting everything they deserve right now. It seems this place and sackpardew.com are the sane minority Yeah that was downright bemusing. How can not getting rid of him mean stability We're going down in a ball of flames and that bloke wanted to stick with him :-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Durham rinsing him on talksport That first caller Up to a couple of weeks ago I would have been convinced he was a troll but having seen the Hull game i think most newcastle fans are getting everything they deserve right now. It seems this place and sackpardew.com are the sane minority Yeah that was downright bemusing. How can not getting rid of him mean stability We're going down in a ball of flames and that bloke wanted to stick with him :-/ A stable ball of flames, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/just-what-mike-ashley-say-7857316?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter According to lip reader Marianne Frere, who has previously translated the 2006 World Cup final incident between Marco Materazzi and Zinedine Zidane, Ashley said: “Yes. Definitely. Yes. I’m seeing him now.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 As people have said, Pardew was always Ashley's wet dream of a manager because he is a yes man who will take a low wage and never challenge his way of doing things. It has got to the point now though where the wet dream is well and truly over and Ashley is frantically trying to bin his spunky kegs somehow without his mam seeing them. Its just gonna take a little more patience on our part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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