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Don't really give a s*** how well he does with Palace in the FA Cup, he proved over the course of 4 seasons he couldn't do it with us.

No he didn't.  He proved we had no ambition to do it. In the league he proved he couldn't do it.

 

Okay, he proved he wasn't going to do it.

 

None of this is new information, the fact that he was a minute away from winning the FA cup with West Ham showed he could progress with another team.

 

He could have progressed here, several times. I know he played weakened teams against Brighton, but at Stevenage we had a team out which should have won. He folded. Same last year at Cardiff. They made as many changes as us, he bottled it.

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It all just adds to the evidence and argument that Ashley is the main cunt that needs removing and that's my main point. Pardspew was shit for us but it was compounded by the fact everyone above him were bigger cunts.

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It all just adds to the evidence and argument that Ashley is the main cunt that needs removing and that's my main point. Pardspew was shit for us but it was compounded by the fact everyone above him were bigger cunts.

 

I doubt you'll find anyone who disputes that.

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Sunderland's chairman is equally as unambitious as us but they had a manager who gave it a go. I don't think Ellis Short gave two fucks about the League Cup going into last season yet they nearly won it.

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It all just adds to the evidence and argument that Ashley is the main cunt that needs removing and that's my main point. Pardspew was shit for us but it was compounded by the fact everyone above him were bigger cunts.

 

Don't think he could have done much of a worse job overall with the players at his disposal, so not sure whether your point is even worth discussion tbh.

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It all just adds to the evidence and argument that Ashley is the main c*** that needs removing and that's my main point. Pardspew was s*** for us but it was compounded by the fact everyone above him were bigger c***s.

 

Don't think he could have done much of a worse job overall with the players at his disposal, so not sure whether your point is even worth discussion tbh.

I'm not defending Pardspew. I am merely stating that he is just one of the symptoms of the Ashley cancer that has infested the club.

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Maybe not on here. But there will be plenty at the games.  I bet.

 

No way, he got mostly support at games

Ashley? He is who I was referring to at this stage.

 

Pards I meant

In which case, aye. He did. I know. :thup:

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They're equal cunts, they were in cahoots. If anything I hate Pardew much, much more because he directly influenced my enjoyment of football. Ashley's a cunt, no doubt, but he didn't tell Pardew how to have us playing.

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It all just adds to the evidence and argument that Ashley is the main c*** that needs removing and that's my main point. Pardspew was s*** for us but it was compounded by the fact everyone above him were bigger c***s.

 

Don't think he could have done much of a worse job overall with the players at his disposal, so not sure whether your point is even worth discussion tbh.

I'm not defending Pardspew. I am merely stating that he is just one of the symptoms of the Ashley cancer that has infested the club.

 

You're absolutely right- however he was a very significant part of that cancer- I'd say more a cause than just a 'symptom'- and one that badly needed cutting out.

 

P45due didn't just suffer from Ashley being a c***, he defended him, propped him up and enabled the whole charade of selling players, profiteering, lack of sporting ambition etc to continue. Continuous defence of Ashley and the strategy was bad enough, but he was often the one touting our bloody players around for sale before spending weeks, months or in the case of C****e nearly a whole year using this sale to justify his cowardly and s*** football. It's also highly probable that this whole "competing in the cups=certain relegation" attitude that still permeates the club came directly from him either to save his arse after the shambles of 12/13 or because his nature is to be the most cowardly c*** possible.

 

I'm going off on a tangent now so I'll get back to the point of the post. Pardew defended Ashley, took all the s*** for him and 100% legitimised the low expectations in Ashley's mind. To have a sniff of seeing a change in the club, we need to see either a change of ownership or a significant change of approach from the current owner (stop sniggering at the back.) Pardew made the whole thing too cosy and easy for him. Without having Pardew to hide behind Ashley might be feeling a little vulnerable, or even open to a degree of change, that was never going to happen with Pardew in charge.

 

 

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Heza09 is bang on the nose.

 

Pardew was just a symptom of the bigger cancer. He's left and it's been business as usual. Nothing has changed. The core problem remains.

 

They're going about the whole thing in typically cunty fashion, but we will get a new manager eventually and his name won't be Alan Pardew. It won't be Carver, either, though we probably will have to suffer him until the end of the season. I'm not saying what they're doing - i.e; writing the season off - is acceptable, but I'm still a hell of a lot more optimistic than I was a month ago. I want us to win these days, for example.

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Heza09 is bang on the nose.

 

Pardew was just a symptom of the bigger cancer. He's left and it's been business as usual. Nothing has changed. The core problem remains.

You see, in the 4 years he was here I thought the core problems were the shit football that completely drained my interest in the game, a pointless brush with relegation, 4 consecutive defeats to the mackems, and the mistreatment of any player who looked to muster up even the smallest amount of excitement.
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Heza09 is bang on the nose.

 

Pardew was just a symptom of the bigger cancer. He's left and it's been business as usual. Nothing has changed. The core problem remains.

You see, in the 4 years he was here I thought the core problems were the s*** football that completely drained my interest in the game, a pointless brush with relegation, 4 consecutive defeats to the mackems, and the mistreatment of any player who looked to muster up even the smallest amount of excitement.

 

:thup:

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Heza09 is bang on the nose.

 

Pardew was just a symptom of the bigger cancer. He's left and it's been business as usual. Nothing has changed. The core problem remains.

You see, in the 4 years he was here I thought the core problems were the shit football that completely drained my interest in the game, a pointless brush with relegation, 4 consecutive defeats to the mackems, and the mistreatment of any player who looked to muster up even the smallest amount of excitement.

 

:thup:

 

The way I see it, Ashley - and others of his ilk - makes me doubt the point of following football any more. But I still do. Pardew - on the other hand - made my inevitable persistence with the sport devoid of any reward. I'll rightfully bitch and whinge about the state of football on a wider scale, but as long as it exists, I'll always follow it religiously.

 

Having a slithery cunt like Pardew making the weekends unbearable was worse than my lingering skepticism about the sport's future, cos ultimately our care, enjoyment and passion are defined by those 90 minutes. His general demeanor day-by-day didn't help either, obviously.

 

He's gone and I'm more optimistic in spite of Ashley's presence. The guy really was that bad.

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