Dave Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Remember when everyone was jubilant at the sale of known Englishman Andy Carroll? No, me neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 English things we have: Moke Williamson John Carver Mike Ashley Lee Charnley Rob Elliot Derek Wright Foreign things we have: Ayoze Perez Papiss Cissé Daryl Janmaat Not Alan Pardew Remy Cabella Pretty much 95% of the English things we have are rubbish. f*** the English things. Is the 5% of good English things the 'o' in Willos first name? Even that's not really his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Jedinak charged with violent conduct, probably banned for 4 games. Hope Pardew explodes, he's already been defending him in the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 He said about it that he'd be surprised if the FA do anything because he's seen worse lol. You couldn't make up some of his comments, they're just too stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Jedinak charged with violent conduct, probably banned for 4 games. Hope Pardew explodes, he's already been defending him in the media. Was wondering if anything would be done about that - was blatant imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alan-pardew-doesnt-expect-crystal-5259559 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31692522 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 hope he gets roped in with johnson, fucking wretched human being that he his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lincoln_imp Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 WUMing at it's poorest. We call s**** as we see it, foreign or no. The only gross irony is that you've clearly trawled this thread. Missed the point of it, the 1000's of posts within it and that by bringing up a mistake made by a foreign managers pronunciation (likely crudely made up) have shown xenophobia in itself. You're likely some EDL type who has turned up as a result of some stick you got at the weekend. Right, you've had your bite. Go masturbate over that. How have you come to this conclusion? The phrase Queens Park Raisons was trending on twitter for almost 2 days straight, and you've gone from my post to accusing me of being xenephobic and a member of the EDL on the back of that, which proves my point exactly. Try not to be too anglophobic mate, and the next time you read a match thread, look at the reaction when English commentators mispronounce foreign names. Take care sweetheart xoxo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Proves anglophobic views and because raisins was trending on twitter we all are as well? Aye right It's jack all to do with views here. See my EDL accusation is as good an example 2 plus 2 making 5 as your drivel point is. EDL or Noel's house party, I don't mind, you're talking baseless horseshit. I do love a post that's signs off as if they haven't been wound up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 my favourite part of this thread is the slagging off of the english media for being "xenephobic" despite the media having a weekly love in for Mourinho/Pochettino/Van Gall, and the gross irony of this forum slagging off anything that is English, ie English managers, players, commentators. When an English person mispronounces a foreign name, this forum goes into meltdown, when a foreign manager mispronounces an English teams name (Queens Park Raisons) this forum masturbates itself into a frenzy of delight. anglophobia at its finest. from your post immediately preceding this one: Things like this just wind me up no end looking at the amount of absolute cloggers England have produced in terms of managers. I saw some statistic on the BBC yesterday listing which clubs played the least short passes (and consequently the most long passes) and the six clubs that produced the least short passes were Palace/Burnley/QPR/Leicester/West Ham/Hull City, all dinosaur English filth. stinking anglophobe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 There is a bias towards foreign lads on this forum but it is somewhat deserved considering most of our imports have come with a level of pedigree and our home lads don't. It is poor that our English lads receive less patience on this forum than foreign lads mind. Mostly talking about the youngsters here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'd love our English players to do well, part of the reason I've given Sammy so much time. Just so happens most of our homegrown players have been poor recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Rolando Aarons is literally the most exciting thing about our club, on the other hand Vuckic has been accepted shit for years despite being one of them untouchable forrens. It has nothing to do with nationality at that age. 'Mature' English players who are known to be shit/average as we've seen them develop at a rival club will get a rough ride, you have to give foreigners more of an opportunity to prove themselves in this league obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 There is a bias towards foreign lads on this forum but it is somewhat deserved considering most of our imports have come with a level of pedigree and our home lads don't. It is poor that our English lads receive less patience on this forum than foreign lads mind. Mostly talking about the youngsters here. That's he generalising nonsense to be honest I'm sorry. The English players we've had recently have either been past it (butt/smith) mediocre (colback/Simpson) or just plain rubbish (Williamson) this more down to a poor academy structure and management ( pardew only utilised British youngsters to hang them out to dry or in games they planned to throw for instance) you pay a premium for British talent for which we aren't prepared to pay and as soon as a decent one comes along they are sold. Once again, it's the poisonous actions of a club that doesn't care rather than simplistic generalisations that we're bunch of English bashing mobsters. The foreign lads who are any good get sold too after a season or two so meh...what's the point? Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Obertan too, somebody many assumed was shit when Man Utd wanted absolutely nothing to do with him and it didn't take long for people to realise that was the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Not sure about us hating English tbh. Home county-wise we all have/had plenty of support for Shane Ferguson, Tavernier, Forster, Aarons, Armstrong, Carroll and we all f***ing love Bigirimana. We generally don't have support for the disgusting players like Moke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Can't believe this argument ever gets discussed. It's total bullshit. Each player gets judged on how shit they are at football, simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Can't believe this argument ever gets discussed. It's total bullshit. Each player gets judged on how s*** they are at football, simple as that. Yep - usually tends to come from an individual who rates an English player and doesn't like to see others speak ill of that player. Then the 'anti-English' line is trotted out without any substance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Not really. Sammy, Dummett and to a lesser extent Colback receive undue criticism. Dummett's performances for us have been at least as solid as Mapou or Haidara but he receives a harder ride on here. Anita's probably worse than Colback but Colback gets a rougher ride on performances. It's largely the unproven lads / lads not in the team that get this treatment. And like I said, to a point it's justified. Anita came with a decentish fee from Ajax with a few caps, Colback was a squad player at Sunderland. But someone like Dummett - it's just plain unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thankfully you're here to keep us all in check though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Must be why he spent every waking minute calling Cisse worse than shite for years. Very honorable effort to balance the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Not really. Sammy, Dummett and to a lesser extent Colback receive undue criticism. Dummett's performances for us have been at least as solid as Mapou or Haidara but he receives a harder ride on here. Anita's probably worse than Colback but Colback gets a rougher ride on performances. It's largely the unproven lads / lads not in the team that get this treatment. And like I said, to a point it's justified. Anita came with a decentish fee from Ajax with a few caps, Colback was a squad player at Sunderland. But someone like Dummett - it's just plain unfair. But all that means is that people have different opinions on players. Personally I think Haidara is much better than Dummett at LB, it's nothing to do with Dummett being English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Not really. Sammy, Dummett and to a lesser extent Colback receive undue criticism. Dummett's performances for us have been at least as solid as Mapou or Haidara but he receives a harder ride on here. Anita's probably worse than Colback but Colback gets a rougher ride on performances. It's largely the unproven lads / lads not in the team that get this treatment. And like I said, to a point it's justified. Anita came with a decentish fee from Ajax with a few caps, Colback was a squad player at Sunderland. But someone like Dummett - it's just plain unfair. Sammy is at best inconsistent, Dummet was originally slated, due to the fact he's a poorer LB than Haidara and Santon, from what I have witnessed lately on here he has been given less of a rough ride and people shown a lot more patience with him looking more promising as a CH. Colback gets stick cos a/ he's average who runs around looking busy while creating gaps all over the place and b/ he slagged us off with that pathetic gesture photo, which i can understand those being cpompletely pissed off, he had a mountain to climb after that. only the nuggets who hate sunderland more think he was a great buy as it 'got one over them' #MackemLogic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Not really. Sammy, Dummett and to a lesser extent Colback receive undue criticism. Dummett's performances for us have been at least as solid as Mapou or Haidara but he receives a harder ride on here. Anita's probably worse than Colback but Colback gets a rougher ride on performances. It's largely the unproven lads / lads not in the team that get this treatment. And like I said, to a point it's justified. Anita came with a decentish fee from Ajax with a few caps, Colback was a squad player at Sunderland. But someone like Dummett - it's just plain unfair. I just don't see that the evidence for that. I, for example, don't rate Dummett very highly. I personally think Haidara is a far superior LB to Dummett - not because he's French, but just because he's better. But, rightly or wrongly, I'm one of Sammy's staunchest supporters because I can see some potential there and I want him to get a new contract. As far as I can see, it's the same with other people - they rate some players, they don't rate others - absolutely nothing to do with where they are from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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