Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Great to see the sackpardew crew coming back with renewed vigour. Great article re player regression I look forward to what they plan next, but as we've seen, its no good them planning this and that if folk don't take it upon themselves to do their bit, thousands did at the weekend evidently but there needs to be more, far more, if we are to see positive changes. They have shown the way and been a breath of fresh air, we now need to follow suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why are you quoting Pardew? The mans a puppet and a liar. Because you're defending him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Great to see the sackpardew crew coming back with renewed vigour. Great article re player regression I look forward to what they plan next, but as we've seen, its no good them planning this and that if folk don't take it upon themselves to do their bit, thousands did at the weekend evidently but there needs to be more, far more, if we are to see positive changes. They have shown the way and been a breath of fresh air, we now need to follow suit. I think a sustained attack will see the tide change in the ground, the numpties that sat on their hands are sheep and when it builds momentum they join in. I just hope it happens soon and not when it's too late. Meanwhile the away games will continue to be hell for Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why are you quoting Pardew? The mans a puppet and a liar. Because you're defending him. grow up. He's a terrible manager. But he's just a part of the problem. He'll get sacked if Ashley thinks we'll get relegated. Ashley is happy with mid table shitness. He'll gamble on it with our safety year In year out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 grow up. He's a terrible manager. But he's just a part of the problem. He'll get sacked if Ashley thinks we'll get relegated. Ashley is happy with mid table shitness. He'll gamble on it with our safety year In year out. I don't need to grow up, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why are you quoting Pardew? The mans a puppet and a liar. Because you're defending him. grow up. He's a terrible manager. But he's just a part of the problem. He'll get sacked if Ashley thinks we'll get relegated. Ashley is happy with mid table shitness. He'll gamble on it with our safety year In year out. Then why are you mentioning how shit his team is then? When in reality, the other 19 managers would have the squad he had on the first day of the season in a far better position than the one in which we sit now. I'm giving myself a bit of artistic licence there I know, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Our team last year was better than 10th and our squad this season (certainly if it had HBA and MYM) is better than 10th. A decent manager would have us there quite comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Our team last year was better than 10th and our squad this season (certainly if it had HBA and MYM) is better than 10th. A decent manager would have us there quite comfortably. Exactly my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Our team last year was better than 10th and our squad this season (certainly if it had HBA and MYM) is better than 10th. A decent manager would have us there quite comfortably. Okay - 8th. Whoopdie doo. We should be aiming to challenge in that top 6 year in year out. That's not our ambition with this owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Our team last year was better than 10th and our squad this season (certainly if it had HBA and MYM) is better than 10th. A decent manager would have us there quite comfortably. Okay - 8th. Whoopdie doo. We should be aiming to challenge in that top 6 year in year out. That's not our ambition with this owner. So Ashley is costing us 2 places and Pardew is costing us 12? Aye, screw it, let's keep Pardew and go after Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Game, set and match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Our team last year was better than 10th and our squad this season (certainly if it had HBA and MYM) is better than 10th. A decent manager would have us there quite comfortably. Okay - 8th. Whoopdie doo. We should be aiming to challenge in that top 6 year in year out. That's not our ambition with this owner. So Ashley is costing us 2 places and Pardew is costing us 12? Aye, screw it, let's keep Pardew and go after Ashley. You'll be in for a rude awakening. Current squad isn't good enough for NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 That's a whole different argument as current squad would be considerably better with a proper manager. Which takes us full circle. Sack Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 That's a whole different argument as current squad would be considerably better with a proper manager. Which takes us full circle. Sack Pardew. The owner isn't good enough. The manager isn't good enough. The players aren't good enough. We'll solve one problem by November but the bigger issue will not be resolved. We'll never amount to anything consistently under Ashley. Peopel talk as if we'll sack Pardew. Ashley will hire a proper manager who isn't a puppet. And invest in the club properly. People are acting like ridding Pardew will solve all our problems. That's my issue. It's a forward step but it's not the end destination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm late to this once again (only got back home yesterday) and it's probably been discussed but I was really disappointed with the crowd/"protests" at the Hull game. I had my little A4 sheet ready on 4:59, ready to hold aloft with the rest of L2C and show Pardew what we thought. Instead there were like, 10 people holding them up, with a dozen or so more in the sections above. Probably 2 or 3 "we want Pardew out" songs all game, (only after we'd conceded, I should add) and hardly any other form of protest, really. Disappointing to say the least. A bit too many people are all talk, it seems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 That's a whole different argument as current squad would be considerably better with a proper manager. Which takes us full circle. Sack Pardew. The owner isn't good enough. The manager isn't good enough. The players aren't good enough. We'll solve one problem by November but the bigger issue will not be resolved. We'll never amount to anything consistently under Ashley. Peopel talk as if we'll sack Pardew. Ashley will hire a proper manager who isn't a puppet. And invest in the club properly. People are acting like ridding Pardew will solve all our problems. That's my issue. It's a forward step but it's not the end destination. So don't take any steps forward and wait for Ashley to go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 That's a whole different argument as current squad would be considerably better with a proper manager. Which takes us full circle. Sack Pardew. The owner isn't good enough. The manager isn't good enough. The players aren't good enough. We'll solve one problem by November but the bigger issue will not be resolved. We'll never amount to anything consistently under Ashley. Peopel talk as if we'll sack Pardew. Ashley will hire a proper manager who isn't a puppet. And invest in the club properly. People are acting like ridding Pardew will solve all our problems. That's my issue. It's a forward step but it's not the end destination. So don't take any steps forward and wait for Ashley to go? Use your brain. Of course Pardew should go. But we would be foolish to think everything is great when that happens. I'm asking for is to keep pushing to ensure we get a decent manager and to get some ambition in the top ranks. The Liverpool fans knew Gillett and Hicks where the driving force behind their mediocrity - with Hodgson as the primary symptom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Nobody will think everything is great when that happens, we'll accept it to a degree if results and performances under a new manager come, but even that has it's limits (look at the reactions to us signing no-one after finishing 5th). The problem is that Newcastle fans in general seem to just not have the energy any more to do anything, not that they don't understand what the problems are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Nobody will think everything is great when that happens, we'll accept it to a degree if results and performances under a new manager come, but even that has it's limits (look at the reactions to us signing no-one after finishing 5th). The problem is that Newcastle fans in general seem to just not have the energy any more to do anything, not that they don't understand what the problems are. They don't do anything because they don't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 OK M8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Literally ask any Newcastle fan and they'll tell you the main problem is Mike Ashley, suggesting otherwise is pointless, I'm not ever sure why you would do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Nobody will think everything is great when that happens, we'll accept it to a degree if results and performances under a new manager come, but even that has it's limits (look at the reactions to us signing no-one after finishing 5th). The problem is that Newcastle fans in general seem to just not have the energy any more to do anything, not that they don't understand what the problems are. They don't do anything because they don't understand. Are you suggesting that Newcastle United fans aren't fully aware Mike Ashley is the major problem with the club? If so, what a load of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 FWIW I don't think the current squad is good enough. I think there's a good chance of them going down even if we get rid of Pardew and replace him with a vastly more suitable manager due to the start he's given us, I wouldn't have said that about last years squad, or the one before that. The point still remains that Pardew needs to go, it's something the fans can directly play a part in, it's significantly more difficult to campaign against Ashley to sell the club, but I think driving his puppet out is a decent start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The main reason that Mike Ashley is the biggest problem at Newcastle is that any other owner would have sacked Pardew by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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