Rob W Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It was grim - overall we played a similar game without any width but they were a yard faster and had a cutting edge Apart from Sisoko and Colwall we were poor and the defence was grim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 He's the captain and the senior CB. You could easily argue that of all the players, he's the one who totally fails to do his job most regularly. Not really. He never picked himself as captain did he? His rapid and sudden decline started when the story about him wanting to go back home emerged. He wasn't himself prior to that, but he wasn't the complete train wreck he is now. Having said that, if he had been turning in these performances in a team that functioned with a purpose and direction, and Colo had been the weak link, I'd agree totally. No one out there, apart from Krul probably, has a clue what they are supposed to be doing. No one! EDIT: I totally agree regarding the captaincy issue that he should lead from the front, but it's clearly not his thing. Pardew should recognize this and take it off him and hand it to someone who understands the responsibility that comes with it! Oh right. None of the players 'pick' their responsibilities so we can just absolve them all. If you got given an important task at work that distinguished you from the rest of your colleagues, you're going to accept it even if you didn't ask for it. This new task comes with serious leadership, commitment and communication responsibilities. If you fail at satisfying the requirements of this specific task, sometimes simply because it's not in your character make-up, it's the job of your boss/manager/superior to realize it and take it off you, and give it to someone else. Coloccini is not a vocal leader and never has been. On the pitch he used to lead by example by turning in good (sometimes great) performances. He was given the captaincy because of his stature or name in the game being an Argentina international etc. I am not defending Coloccini, because yes he has been a shit captain for us. I'm just saying he was the wrong choice to begin with. Either way, it's pretty clear he wants out, and has been for a while. He's human. He's an arsehole for not buying up the rest of his contract and fucking off, but it is what it is. The fact that Pardew didn't strip him of the captaincy is down to the manager being a thick cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It's evidence of the complete lack of accountability endemic at the club. If your bosses are shit at their jobs, phoning it in and getting away with murder; why would you be driven, motivated or care? Everything is poison. Ineffective, frankly bad coaching. Appalling man management. Weak authority. Rank transfer policy. Wrong reasons for owning a football club - and we wonder why there is no skill evident, team ethic, passion (whatever it is) or progression. Worst run club in the country. Bar none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It's evidence of the complete lack of accountability endemic at the club. If your bosses are s*** at their jobs, phoning it in and getting away with murder; why would you be driven, motivated or care? Everything is poison. Ineffective, frankly bad coaching. Appalling man management. Weak authority. Rank transfer policy. Wrong reasons for owning a football club - and we wonder why there is no skill evident, team ethic, passion (whatever it is) or progression. Worst run club in the country. Bar none. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It's not just the lack of vocal leadership, the example he sets is one of incompetence, cowardice and nonchalance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 :lol: Williamson man. Just watching now on Goals on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Just seen the third goal. Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Jonathan Pearce: "You can't blame the manager for the terrible performance of his two centre backs yesterday." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Ironic that. You can't blame them either according to some on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 You can blame them all, they're one colossal clusterfuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Jonathan Pearce: "You can't blame the manager for the terrible performance of his two centre backs yesterday." I'm sitting watching this garbage (MOTD2 extra), just repeatedly shouting f*** OFF at the screen. Not one of them has a clue, has anyone in the media watched us over the last two seasons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Jonathan Pearce: "You can't blame the manager for the terrible performance of his two centre backs yesterday." No but we can blame him for the awful preformance of the whole team which has last since last january and has continued into the new season. Pardew is garbage and has been saved by having Demba Ba, Cisse and Remy pinging goal sin for him. Now that fret is gone his awful brand of sit deep, give nowt away and try to nick a goal is falling on its arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Jonathan Pearce: "You can't blame the manager for the terrible performance of his two centre backs yesterday." I'm sitting watching this garbage, just repeatedly shouting f*** OFF at the screen. Not one of them has a clue, has anyone in the media watched us over the last two seasons? :lol: Ditto Fucking idiots man, Pearce , Jenas abd that utter fuckwit Chapman.."needs time!!!"...Just all fuck of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Jonathan Pearce: "You can't blame the manager for the terrible performance of his two centre backs yesterday." So who is responsible then? Is Pearce trying to suggest that the bloke in charge of the team isn't responsible for the results and performances? He continues to pick the cunts week in, week out. Say it again, eight 3+ hammerings since this February alone. That's ignoring all of the shit results that almost got us relegated the season prior to that. What an utter wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Jonathan Pearce: "You can't blame the manager for the terrible performance of his two centre backs yesterday." Always baffles me that pundits can't comprehend the simple idea that the manager is the one to blame for those players being on the pitch in the first place. Its the old boys network tho, they'll all drink with each and meet at certain events. None of them will speak the truth. The only pundit I have heard criticise Pardew was John Hartson on Football Focus last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Jonathan Pearce: "You can't blame the manager for the terrible performance of his two centre backs yesterday." Okay, fair enough. And what about the rest of the matches this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Ironic that. You can't blame them either according to some on here. Bollocks. No one is absolving them of blame. But carry on that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The man who has selected them week in week out for the best part of 3 years and trains them everyday isn't responsible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The man who has selected them week in week out for the best part of 3 years and trains them everyday isn't responsible. Its pure madness! :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The man who has selected them week in week out for the best part of 3 years and trains them everyday isn't responsible. Its pure madness! :lol: Just another mong to add to the increasingly long list. I wonder why Alan isn't talking about a roster capable of challenging the top 5 anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 result of that poll and end to MOTD2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 fair enough the new guys need time to settle but he's had the same 3 CB's on his roster since he got here and he still hasn't got them sorted. pundits really need to step up their game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Guardian reporting that he's been given until the hull game. Will be dispiriting if we fluke that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Going to turn it round like that is he? Just jettison the big twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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